Case No. 000-50-5-3 (USA vs. Erich Schuettauf, et al)
(June 1947)
Defendants
Defendants are all
German nationals and identify themselves
on pages
4-5 as:
Erick
Schuettauf 60
years old from
Dresden
Wil
helm
Grill 30
years old from
Bayreuth
Oscar
Tandler 57
years old from Crimetchau
He
rb
ert Hartung 41
years old from Neukirchen, Saxonia
Alfons
Hugo Heisig 42
years old from Neesen,
Westphalia
Willi
Jungjohann 45
years old from Osterrennfeld, Holestein
Prosecution & Defense Counsel
Chief Prosecutor, Mr.
Lewis Horowitz (3)
Chief Defense Counsel, Lieutenant
Paul Hughes (3)
Special Defense Attorney
Dr. Wil
helm
Kluge (1)
Prosecutors (2):
Colonel
Andrew G. Gardener, President
Colonel
William C. Bausch, Legal Member
Colonel
Claude C. Burch
Lieutenant
Colonel Jules V. Sims
Lieutenant
Colonel
Carlisle
B.
Irwin
Testimony of Joseph Berdzinski
Joseph
Berdzinski, a thirty four year old civil servant and
Polish national
from Linz,
Austria (114-115), was a prisoner in Gusen I from 1940
until 1945 (115). For his first days in the camp, Berdzinski
was assigned to carry stones until he was reassigned “to
bring....to take the rocks out” (115). After
that, he became a stone cutter and, finally, he was
assigned to the tunnels (115).
Grill
and the Mail
Wilhelm Grill was in charge
of the mail room and, Berdzinski testified,
stole food stuffs out of the packages that
were sent to the Polish prisoners (115-116).
Berdzinski gives the example of three-quarters
of a sausage removed from a package in which
only one-quarter of the original contents
were left for the prisoners (116). Stolen
food was taken to the Jourhaus, the entrance
to Gusen I. Berdzinski knew this because
he had to carry a bag of food there once
himself (116). He testifies that the food
was taken to the Jourhaus by “Grill,
an SS Sergeant, and other helpers” (117).
Berdzinski once even saw the packages being
opened by Grill, an SS Sergeant, and inmates
Cunajek and Krause who worked in the mail
room behind the camp (117) in the SS area
(122) where the packages were stacked when
they came in (117) if there were too many
of them. Later on the packages were taken
to the “Central” or “main
post office” (122). Berdzinski did
not believe that packages were opened simply
to censor the contents, but to pilfer foodstuff
(122). Berdzinki received three to four parcels
a week as well as holidays (122). When prisoners
went to receive mail and complained of things
missing, they were beaten by Grill, usually
with a stick or whip (116). First Sergeant
Fiessel was in charge of the distribution
of what was left of the packages and, according
to Berdzinski, he was “just
in his distribution.” Tech Sergeant
Reichert was also in charge of the distribution
of the packages (121). Both men saw that
packages got to the right prisoner (124,
125), but by the time the packages got to
these two men they had already been opened
and fat, sausages, and cakes had been removed
(116, 121). But these men only made sure
that the correct person received their package
(125).
The
Spaniards
Willi Jungjohann, or Jung as
he was referred to by Berdzinski, started out in Gusen
I as a guard and later became a block leader and a
detail leader in Oberbruch Kastenhof in 1943 when Berdzinski
worked there (117). Jung, according to Berdzinski, “walked
around all day long and chased the people to work” and
beat people for complaining about being poorly treated
by capos (118). Jung was known for beating prisoners
ruthlessly with a stick, even on the head and injuring
them. In the fall of 1943, Jung even beat a Spaniard
to death with his stick. According to Berdzinski, the
Spaniards worked on a “narrow gauge railroad
which they had to push” (118). When the cart
they were pushing derailed, the Spaniards were exhausted.
Jung ran among them and started to beat them with a
stick. One of the weaker Spaniards was beaten so badly
that he had to be carried away and, Berdzinski was
told later by a friend of the man, died (118-119).
Berdzinski was beaten once as well by Jung when he
was caught boiling some potatoes in the stone cutters
hall. Jung then took the potatoes to the capos (119).
Chmielewski
and Drunken Beatings
Berdzinski also mentions times when the detail leaders
would go with the camp leader and the role call leader
and get drunk. After much drinking, they would come
back to the camp and sick dogs on the prisoners and
even beat prisoners until their “eyes fell out” (119-120)
with whips, breaking windows and making a lot of noise
(126). When this took place, Berdzinski states that
Jung was not present for this, but that he believes
that Grill was there, though it was Schmielewski [sic]
who knocked the eyes out of a prisoner with his whip
(126).
Testimony of Johann Joseph Foerster
Johann Joseph Foerster, 50 years old, a shoemaker
from Offenbach an der Main, Germany, was in Dachau
and Mauthausen until the liberation for being a “functionary
of the Fascist Opposition Group in Frankfurt an der
Main” (280). He knew Schuettauf from the Vienna-Florisdsorf
sub-camp of Mauthausen (280) in the summer of 1944
(281) where he worked from seven am until 10 pm to
the right of the camp entrance in a shoe shop with
very high windows (282).
Vienna-Florisdsorf and
Schuettauf
Foerster only knew Schuettauf for three months and
was never in Gusen I (285).There were both Navy men
and SS as guards at Vienna-Florisdorf, and there was
tension between these two groups. The five SS men were
hated by the Navy guards (281) Among the SS, Schuettauf
had a reputation for strictness. The Navy guards disliked
him for requiring “too much duty from them” (282).
The camp was opened after an air attack on Vienna.
Schuettauf was camp commander when the camp opened
and remained there for three months. Foerster recalls
Schuettauf as “very correct” (281), distributing
food fairly among all nationalities, mistreating no-one.
At night, prisoners discussed amongst themselves how
Schuettauf treated them well and respected their rights.
(282). Foerster recalls seeing out of his workshop
windows one day an escapee, a Pole, being returned
to camp. The roll-call leader slapped the man for failing
to respond to a question about the escape. Schuettauf
stopped the beating, told the roll-call leader that
he had no right to beat prisoners, and had the prisoner
transferred back to Mauthausen as he might escape again
(283).
Schuettauf also arranged to have left over food from
the plant cafeteria delivered to prisoners (283). Schuettauf
went to the kitchen three times a day to inspect the
food, and although no prisoners were allowed in the
kitchen, Foerster testifies that he believes Schuettauf
was very concerned that the extra food from the plant
kitchen be mixed with the prisoners’ food (284).
Prisoners nicknamed Schuettauf the “chief capo” because
he was always walking through the plant making sure
that prisoners were not being mistreated by guards
and ensuring during air raids that prisoners were not
driven by guards. Twenty prisoners were detailed to
make sure the “air raid protective tools” were
in shape. Prisoners had to go out into the fields for
a half an hour to make sure no one was hurt during
an air raid (284). There were no deaths in the plant
while Schuettauf was in charge. Foerster believes Schuettauf
was transferred as a result of his behavior toward
the prisoners. “As a former prisoner I can say
only one thing that is known to me. Whenever there
was an SS member who was decent to the prisoners he
would never keep his job very long. He would always
be released quickly” (284).
Testimony of Johann Folger
Johann Folger a German laborer was born in Munich
in 1906. In 1933 he was arrested and sentenced to 7
years and 1 month for arguing with certain members
of the National Socialist Party about the Reichstag
Fuehrer [sic]. Released on April 11, 1940, (482)
Folger was arrested again the following day (483).
Folger said, “I was told at the police station
headquarters in Munich that the police force was not
large enough to supervise me properly, and in order
to avoid a reoccurrence of 1918, men of my type had
to be taken into protective custody.” He was
labeled as a “professional criminal” and
so he wore a green triangle (484). He believed they
were wrong and said that “the greatest criminals
of all time made me a criminal, although there was
no reason given at all for it” (484). He had
once served one year and a six months for a “real
crime” [unspecified] (484), but no specific charges
from the criminal code were brought against him in
1933 or 1940 (484).
In 1940 when he was arrested again he was sent
to concentration camps, eventually ending up at Gusen
on August 16, 1940. His duties while in the camp were
initially as a prisoner and, from 1942 on, as a capo.
As a prisoner he was in many details, all outside the
camp, “pumping station, settling point, gravel
pit, St. Georgen, dynamite detail, Katzdorf, mine [sic]
construction, St. Georgen, cellar construction,1,2,
and 3” (483). Folger was in charge of a detail
of 20 men (485).
On the dynamite detail, Folger was in charge of 18
[difficult to read in the copy, perhaps 10] other prisoners
who made a test tunnel where ten bombs and two air
mines were brought to explosion to find out the underground
tunnels’ vulnerability (500).
Russian POWs
SS Technical Sergeant Knockl was in charge of the
Russian prisoner-of-war camp (483). Under him was Block
Leader Kuetreiber and Block Leader Tandler, who was
also interpreter (485). He also knew SS Sergeant Becker
(485). The Russian camp was made up of Blocks 13, 14,
15, 16, 24,23, 22 and 21 from October 1941 for “about
a year” (485). Folger does not recall Tandler’s
name associated with mistreatment in the Russian camp
(486).
Young Russians
Folger says that Tandler was known as “The Father
of the Russians” among the prisoners, not the
SS. He cannot say if this name was ironical or not
(486).
Camp Leaders Chmielewski
and Seidler
Chmielewski was the protective-custody camp leader
at Gusen until “about the middle of 1942” (486).
Asked if Chmielewski returned at the end of 1944 or
the beginning of 1945 Folger said, “Yes, I saw
him there as a civilian, but he wasn’t protective
custody camp leader any more” (486). Folger said
Chmielewski was probably the worst and most terrible
camp leader at Gusen. Chmielewski would visit the camps
at night drunk and beat up the prisoners accompanied
by block leaders and labor service leaders. Eventually
SS Major Obermeyer “stopped these nightly visits” (487)
by Chmielewski and the labor service leaders (487).
The “main” (487) men surrounding Chmielewski
were Jentzsch, Gross, Kluge, Kirchner, Brust, Streitweisser
(487). Jentzsch was Chmielewski’s right hand
man, according to Folger (496). He says it is possible
that one of the accused at this trial might have been
in Chmielewski’s group as well, but he doesn’t
remember (487). The men he mentions also came into
the camp in the evening, and he saw them there. He
did not see Grill among them and did not hear Grill’s
name discussed by prisoners the day after a night’s
beating (488).
Seidler was quieter, but “perhaps more of a
murderer” (487).
Gassing
Folger testifies that around January or February in
1943, his barracks was gassed. He recalls hearing
one gun shot being fired in the middle of the night.
The next morning he met Capo Losen who was there with
a truck of ten prisoners who were to take the corpses
to the crematory. Folger entered the barracks and saw
dead bodies lying in beds and in front of the door. [The
following sentences are difficult to read in the copy].
Folger stated, “They had strangled each other. Some
of them strangled each other, some of them strangled
each other, and not many of us saw it” (498) The
names mentioned in connection with this incident were
SS Technical Sergeant Schmitt and Damnschke (498).
Bathing-to-Death
Folger says bathing-to-death of invalids occurred
from October1941 to March 1942 (492) under Chmielewski
(493). He recalls, “As far as I can remember
it was said that only three percent invalids were allowed
in camp” (493). Folger assumed the men who were
selected to be in the death baths were hand picked
by the camp physician (496).
He recalled two incidents. Of the first, he says: “It
must have been the end of 1941. There I saw the Block
Eldest Schroegler took approximately thirty or forty
prisoners to the prisoners’ bath house, and then
he returned alone, and I asked him what was being done
there, and he told me that these men would receive
a bath there (493).” “They had only their
pants and an overcoat” [sic] (494). SS
Technical Sergeant Hurst and Jentsch entered, and the
prisoners started to scream “and then one could
hear that they were beating them and approximately
half an hour later they came out of the bathhouse again” (494). “That
first group was the last 48 Jews drowned there, and
the second time they were invalids from Block 32, and
there I heard for the first time that they were to
be drowned there, also” (494). Folger saw the
men being taken to the bathhouse and asked what was
happening to the prisoners. The answer was, “They
are going to be killed (494).” “At the
time I didn’t take any interest in it anymore
because it happened nearly every day” (494).
He also heard prisoners say that “Hans Losen” [very
difficult to read this name in the copy] (495) also
participated in these baths. Folger never heard the
names of any of the accused or of Grill in particular
associated with the death baths (495). Prisoners continued
to talk about these incidents until February and March
1942. He also heard that “camp capo Losen” once
drowned 17 Russians (495). The death-baths were so
well known that everyone in the camp must have heard
of them (501).
Living and
Working Conditions for Russian POWs
Folger recalls that the 2,000 Russians who arrived
in October 1941 all died (except those in infirmaries)
by March 1942. Folgers says these men died from “Bad
food; during the day they had to work in the stone
quarries without socks, with wooden shoes; it was raining
and snowing. They had very little clothes only
a pair of pants, a thin jacket; and at noontime they
didn’t get much to eat; they had to eat while
standing up in the stone quarry; very long roll call
and that is the reason why the people perished” (499).
Deaths
Folger also stated that by March 1943 Gusen had about
30,000 deaths, mostly from “Bad food, not enough
clothes, chicaneries, mistreatments” (499). He
dismisses spotted fever as a major cause of death. “We
had that too, but that wasn’t so important” (499).
Grill and
the Mail
Folger only remembers Grill as a “nervous
and vain man” (488) and explains the prisoners’ hatred
towards him as a result of Grill’s having taken
more out of the packages “than he was supposed
to” (488). Prisoners called him the “Mail
Robber” (489). He was disliked among the SS for
his vanity. “I remember once an SS man told me
that he, the SS man, intended to go bowling, and then
he went to Grill’s room and asked him to go along.
He called Grill by his first name, and Mr. Grill told
this SS man that for him he was not Grill, but SS Master
Sergeant Grill” (488). As to his treatment of
prisoners, Folger recalls that once after all the mail
was distributed, there were a few pieces of bread left.
Grill threw them through the door in the group of prisoners.
Grill knew well that prisoners were hungry and that
they would jump for these breadcrumbs (489). Folger
could not say if anyone was hurt by this. The prisoners
did beat each other over the bread. Grill expected
this to happen (501-502).
Folger went to the mailroom every evening with fifty
to one hundred prisoners (489) when the mail was distributed.
He and his work detail received food distributed from
the packages the same day it was taken out. This, he
says, was on the instruction of Commander Ziereis after
Tandler had requested it. Folger had told Tandler that
his men, who had to do heavy work, needed more food
and Tandler suggested this to Ziereis (490). Folger
says that this was never made clear to the other prisoners
(491). All the prisoners had to fall out on Roll-Call
Square when Commander Ziereis published an order that
things must be taken out of packages that were too
large (491). Folger recalls that the prisoners
were upset with the packages they received. He stated, “Everybody
would have been willing to give up something out of
his package, but they all were very angry that the
best parts of these packages were taken out” (492).
The prisoners blamed Grill, SS Technical Sergeant Schmidtt
and “the old man Reichert wasn’t very well
liked either” (492) Prisoners did not
think the things taken out of their packages were being
distributed among other prisoners (492). At the time
there were about 1,400 to two thousand delivered to
the camp daily. Two, three, or four hundred were given
out to prisoners daily (496).
Grill was said to have an “easy
hand” (495)
when beating prisoners. Folger does not remember him
remaining in the camps in the evenings or living or
sleeping there or “hanging around” (495).
Grill lived in St. Georgen (496).
Executions
Johann Folger testified that there were two hangings,
one in 1942 and the other in 1944. In one case, the
Russian prisoner was said to have tried to escape and
that he must be hanged according to the orders of Reichsführer
SS Himmler, but he told another prisoner that he was
innocent (500).
Testimony of Pedro Gomez
A
28 year old Spanish mechanic living
in
Linz
,
Austria
,
Gomez was in Gusen I from
17 February
1941
to
5 May 1945
where
he worked as a stonemason, at the smith
shop, and as water-pipe installer (90).
When asked why he was in the camp,
he replied, “We were working
in France after having fought in Spain
and when the German entered France
we were promised work in Germany as
free workers and we were brought to
concentration camps” (99). When
asked which side he was on, Gomez replied, “On
the side of the Republic, my government
(99). “Against Franco” (113).
Grill and
Bathing-to-Death
Gomez
remembers Grill from his first day
in camp as a detail leader and the
man in charge of the post office. He
recalls seeing Grill lead invalids
to the showers (90) in 1943 or 1944
(92). First the healthy men would be
taken to the showers “in order
to go to work,” and afterwards,
the invalids (107). Gomez recalls seeing
from Barracks 12 or 13 Grill and other
SS lead men of all nationalities to
the showers, hearing screams, and then
seeing the SS return alone. A Spaniard
named Marino who worked in the crematorium
told him many died as a result of being
bathed to death (92). Gomez saw Grill
pass by on his way to the showers with
invalids quite frequently in 1943 and
1944 “during the extermination
of invalids,” and although he
never saw Grill in the showers directly
he had no reason to doubt that he was
involved (102). Gomez personally saw
the bodies leaving the shower (104)
and in the crematorium (103).
As
he was lined up outside Barracks 2,
the post office, waiting for a package
(99), Gomez saw that half the contents
of the Polish packages were taken (23)
(99) When asked by Defense Attorney
Kluge if he knew that there was an
order that extra food should be distribu
ted
to those doing hard
work, Gomez replied that he had never
heard this and that the hungry did
not get the food (99). SS mechanics
and electricians would come for extra
rations. Waiting for more food, prisoners
would push and shove and the SS would
grab whatever was near and beat randomly
at the men (93). Grill beat men only
with one hand, as the other was injured
(99). In April 1945 a large number
of Red Cross packages from
France
arrived
and these were also pilfered by the
SS men and Grill. Gomez also remembers
a Spaniard named Cinca who worked in the post office.
As punishment for writing down the
names of all the towns mentioned in
the newspapers as overrun by the Russians
(94). Grill beat Cinca and
took him to the camp commandant (unnamed)
who ordered him to be killed the next
day. Second-in-Command Beck intervened
and got the sentence reduced to 25
lashes and three days in “confinement” (95).
On
page 108, Gomez explains that Oskar,
from
Hamburg
, whose job
it was to turn the showers on and off,
explained to him the process by which
invalids were murdered. “...the
showers had three drains. Then the
pavement would slant slightly. At the
side of the showers there was a step
about twenty-five or thirty centimeters
high. Then as the invalids arrived,
and this was only for the invalids,
they were given a bar of soap. They
would cover the three drains and then
they would let the water run more or
less, until it was forty or fifty meters
high. Then the invalids were forced
to lie in the water, and they were
induced to do this by leather whips
that the guards had. If some did not
do so, they would take their foot and
put it over their face, and with their
foot over the neck or the face, they
were kept there until they drowned. After this, if some
were still alive, they were again submerged
and then they were taken out” (108).
Jungjohann
Jungjohann
was in charge of masons at Gusen I
(95). As an installer of water-pipes,
Gomez could go about the camp with
his toolbox and observed that Jung
often beat prisoners by hand and boot
(95)
Tandler
and the Young Russians
Tandler
was in charge of the 13, 14 and 15
year old Russians and was block führer to
them. Gomez observed Tandler beating
them when they marched out of formation
or would not sing. He also testifies
that these young men did very hard
work crushing rock in the quarry. Tandler
was supposed to ensure they got extra
food, but even when this happened,
he stole it from the boys (96). He
recalls hearing the young Russians
singing as they left for work and as
they returned. While they were suppose
to leave half an hour later than the
other workers and return half an hour
earlier, Gomez recalls they often returned
from work with the others (99). Under
no circumstances would the Russian
youth have called Tandler “Father,” Gomez
testified (100). Although Gomez did
not know any German, he believes they
were forced to sing in German, and
if they did not, they were beaten (107).
Heisig
As
foreman of the firemen and then the
Messerschmitt factory (96) Heisig was
feared for beating men for trivial
reasons. One Sunday in February 1945,
Gomez saw him beat a young Polish prisoner
for taking three potatoes off a cart
(97).
Schuettauf
and the Chain of Guards
Cleaning
Schuettauf’s room one day, Gomez
learned he was leader of the guards,
but Gomez himself did not witness any
illegal behavior from Schuettauf. Since
Gomez had access to the entire camp
in his capacity as water-pipe installer,
he observed that either Schuettauf
or an SS “with three stars” would
instruct the guard before they dispersed
to their assigned posts by “way
of the highway” or through the
quarry, whichever appropriate. He also
recalls them cutting across the quarry
to return to their barracks after prisoners
had left work (104). The guards
left for work half an hour before inmates
left the inside of the “electrically
charged wall” (106).
Gassing
of Russians
When
Gomez asked Spaniards in the crematorium
why there was so much smoke one day
(109) in February 1942 (98), they told
Gomez that they had a large number
of corpses, either 147 or 164 (Gomez
could not recall exactly), because
of a gassing of Russians (98) in Barracks
16 (109). Stupinski, (or Lupinski,
used in the same context on 112) an
Austrian civilian who released the
gas in the barracks, told him that
the windows and doors were first sealed
with paper, the gas was released, and
then the Russians were forced to enter.
In 1945 when Gomez was staying in Barracks
21, a similar action took place with
prisoners from Barracks 24 in Barracks
31 during “a disinfection” (109).
Gassing
of Jews
At
this time “Polish children and
men from Gusen No. 2—children
of 3 and 4 years old” (110) were
brought to two “disinfections” on
consecutive nights. The children were
already dead, brought on wagons with
all the other bodies. Gomez testifies
that these children arrived toward
the end of the war. The women, it was
said, had been sent on to
Mauthausen.
Inmates could see the train station
from the camp, and they could see
what they were told were Polish Jews
with their children by the hand or
in their arms (110).
Gusen II
In
answer to Court President Colonel Gardner’s
question “What was Gusen II?” Gomez
explains, “Gusen II was a new
camp that was formed about the end
of 1943 or the beginning of 1944 and
then they star
ted
to send in prisoners.” (109)
Gardner
: “Where any
particular kinds of prisoners sent
to Gusen II?”
“No.
Some of them marched from our camp
over to the other one. The only thing
that can be said, it was a larger command
and they were sent to work on the details
in St. Georgen---” [dashes in
transcript] (110).
Hartheim Castle
At
the end of 1941 Gomez also saw invalid
transports leave Gusen I who were said
to be headed to Hartheim (110).
Testimony of Wilhelm Grill
At the time of the trial, Wilhelm Grill was a 31-year-old
construction locksmith from Bayreuth, Bavaria.
Grill and the Hitler Youth
In 1933, Grill was a politically uninterested (319)
17-year-old locksmith apprentice (317). As a
young fellow he was impressed by the great organization
of the Nazi Party. Information on other parties was
only found on little posters and notes (319). He was
influenced, as well, by the alleged successes of the
Party. “One could see after 1933 that all the
hate among the parties had disappeared. All over Germany
constructions was going on, reconstruction was going
on, the workers in the factories received jobs again,
and people became happier than they were before, they
were easier satisfied” (320). He believed
that the program of the Party would save Germany from
economic and political depression (319). This
belief was partly due to the fact that his poor father’s
business began to improve after 1933 (319). In
the spring of 1934, by his own volition, he joined
the Hitler Youth (318, 351); prior to this he had no
connections with the Nazi Party or its organizations
(317). He believed that all Hitler wanted was
peace (320). This is what he was taught by the
Hitler Youth and Waffen SS (320). He never thought
that Germany would go to war (320). If he and other
Germans had known what Hitler was going to do, he wouldn’t
have come to power (320). He was in the Hitler
Youth until April 1935 when he joined the Waffen SS
(318).
Army Service
and the Waffen SS
Grill joined the Waffen SS voluntarily because he
had lost his job in 1934 (318). He was with the
Waffen SS from April 1935 until April 1938 (318). On
page 351, the dates he gives for his service in the
SS are April 1935 until March 1938. He says, “I
was in the NSDAP from May 1, 1937, until the end” (351). While
in the Waffen SS, his first unit was Guard Group Elbe
(318). While stationed in Torgau, he worked as
a company clerk (318). The Guard Group Elbe was
in charge of guarding men he thought of as reformatory
prisoners who came from Berlin so that their conduct
would be corrected (319). When he left the Waffen
SS in 1938, he went into labor service for seven months
and then joined the army (322). He was in the
army until 1940 (322) (351) when he was wounded by
a machine gun bullet during maneuvers of the 61st Infantry
Regiment (322). Because of his wound, a disabled
right hand, he was discharged from the Wehrmacht and
thus returned to civilian life (322). After being
discharged from the army he was reexamined by the Waffen
SS and pronounced fit for service on home front (323). He
was assigned to the post office at the concentration
camp, Mauthausen, where he understood his only duties
would be to run the post office (323). He served
in the Waffen SS from May 10, 1940, until May 5, 1945
(351).
Contact with
Concentration Camps
The first concentration camp Grill got acquainted
with was Dachau (320). He, as well as all German
people, believed that concentration camps were for
the “enemies” (321) of the Nazi Party who
needed to be locked up and re-educated for some time
until they ceased to be enemies of the German Reich
(321). It was impossible to hear anything else
about concentration camps because former prisoners
spoke cautiously about their experiences. Grill had
met such a man (321). This was probably due
to mistreatment (322). Grill didn’t know if prisoners
had to take a vow of secrecy (321). In 1942
and 1943 he began having doubts about the concentration
camps (322).
When asked by the prosecution to assess the conditions
in Gusen I, he says that in 1942 conditions were very
bad until the ban on the receipt of parcels was lifted.
After that they improved and could be classified as “average” (352).
When asked to compare conditions between Dachau and
Gusen, Grill says that he never entered the camp at
Dachau and so could not offer a comparison (353).
Service in
the Post Office
Grill worked in the post office at Gusen I from November
15th, 1940, until August 14th or 15th of 1944. (323).
Prior to arriving at Gusen, he was sent directly to
Mauthausen (323) where he spent four days training
in the post office (323). As far as he was concerned,
he only intended to take charge of the mailroom (323).
During six months of continued training at Gusen, the
postman from Mauthausen visited Grill frequently. After
this training Grill took charge of the Gusen post office
(330-331). He remained supervisor until 1944
when he was released of these duties by SS Colonel
Ziereis (324).
Head of
Criminal Matters and Welfare
After April 1942 (224) he did not really participate
in the business of the camp (325), but since the office
of the head of the local party ward Ziereis was in
the same SS barracks (324) outside the protective custody
camp (325) (327) as the SS mail room, Grill continued
to go to this barracks every day after Ziereis put
him in charge of all criminal matters for the Nazi
Party. After the 14th or 15th of August 1944, when
the bombardments and the “retreat refugees came
into our area” (224), Ziereis put him in charge
of the Refugee Welfare Department of the National Socialist
Welfare Organization as his main duty. Ziereis wanted
his office at Gusen because this put the center of
the party in the approximate geographical center of
the ward (324).
As head of the NS Welfare organization, Grill says
that he had to take care of hundreds of refugees after
1943. Several nights a week, this work kept him from
returning to his home in the SS Settlement in St. Georgen
an der Gusen. The work that kept him at Gusen was “Work
for the Welfare Organization, for the party, and caring
for the refugees” (342).
Living Quarters
From January to October of 1941, he lived in Mauthausen
(324) in the Restaurant Arras (341), and from January
of 1942 until the second of May 1945 he lived in the
SS Settlement in St. Georgen (325-326). Occasionally,
when he first arrived, he slept in the camp Gusen while
on duty (342) However, after 1943, he only returned
home 3 or 4 nights a week but “remained on duty” for
the “National Socialist Welfare Organization,
for the Party, and caring for refugees” (342).
Mail Theft
While Grill was in charge of the post office at Gusen
I, no other SS men came into the post office and took
articles from packages (336) (363). If he had
seen it, he would have reported it because he had signed
the order of Reichsführer SS Himmler which punished
mail theft by hanging (337). Grill did authorize giving
extra food to the prisoners who helped in the post
office so that they wouldn’t steal it and be
punished (364) (338).
Restrictions on
Prisoner Mail
Not all prisoners could receive mail or parcels. This
determination was made by the Reich Security Main Office
in Berlin (376). Russians could not write letters (350).
On each letterhead going out of the camp, prisoners
relatives were told that they could not send pictures
or sketches “and so on” (329). These regulations
were issued from Mauthausen in accordance with the
Reich Security Main Office (330). New prisoners were
informed about these rules through interpreters and
block clerks (331).
Until October 1942, prisoners could only receive parcels
at Christmas (326), and a four pound weight limit was
imposed (355). After October 1942, prisoners could
receive parcels at any time (326), and the limit was
raised to the limit set by the parcel post, 40 pounds
(335) or 20 kilos (375). The inmates relatives had
been warned with an enclosure in the outgoing mail
about what could and could not be sent to inmates in
parcels (362) explaining to them that they were only
allowed to send food, and could not send letters, tools,
pictures or medical supplies (374).
Grill and
the Reception and Distribution of Mail
Before the change in the restrictions on packages
in October 1942 (226) the reception and distribution
of mail began at 7:00 am when a truck from Mauthausen
took Grill, an SS guard, and two prisoners to the train
station at St. Georgen. The mail arrived on a passenger
train and, once unloaded, was taken to the post office
in St. Georgen to be sorted (325). At about 9 or 9:30
am the camp mail was handed over to them and they returned
to the SS mailroom and sorted prisoner from SS mail
(325). Censoring of prisoner mail was always done in
this SS mailroom outside the camp (328) (332). In the
afternoon, Grill took the outgoing SS mail to the post
office and returned around 4 pm when he helped with
censoring if there was enough time (325).
After the restrictions on packages changed and picking
up parcels and censoring parcels became part of his
responsibility (226). Grill’s duty day would
begin at 6:30 am and end at 10 pm (342). The first
day under the new regulations, 300 packages arrived
in the first shipment. The number increased to from
700 to 800 a day by the middle of 1943 (326) although
the average weight remained 4 or 5 kilos (375).
By 1943, the Reichsbahn was unable to take care of
the volume of packages and Gusen I was given its own
mail car which was taken every morning including Sundays
from the station at St. Georgen directly to Gusen by
way of the special tracks in front of the camp (326). “From
the moment the mail car was opened until the time the
last parcel was disposd of, always a civilan employee
of the German Post Office, of the Austrian post office
at St. Georgen was present” (328).
The parcels were taken to the SS mail room outside
the camp and checked with the parcel post receipts
(328). Here the parcels were sorted (332). After parcels
were checked with the parcel post cards and it was
determined, as far as possible, that the addressee
was really in the camp, the parcels were loaded on
a large vehicle and brought through the gates of the
Jourhaus to the parcel mailroom (328), a single room
in Block 2 which was “solely the censoring office
for parcel post for prisoners” (332).
The parcels were unloaded and “all parcel post
cards went through the filing system of the camp office” (328).
The camp post office had cards on all inmates who were
permitted to write and receive mail (376). Grill also
received daily reports on prisoners who had died or
were transferred (376) “to outside details” (328).
After the unloading and filing, mail that did not belong
to Gusen was prepared that evening (328) to be shipped
back to Mauthausen or St. Georgen (337) the next morning
(342). Packages of dead or transferred prisoners were
returned or forwarded without exception according to
Grill (363). This initial “check-up” (328)
took until late afternoon (328).
At this time, the package was censored. The man in
charge of censoring it was the only person to handle
it (333). Anything not permitted to be sent to prisoners
such as underwear, pictures (359), drawings or money
baked into bread or large items of clothing such as
pants (handkerchiefs were allowed) was removed (361).
Items of clothing taken out of the packages were tagged
and sent to the storage room (362). Money, if sent
in a letter, was confiscated. Grill says it was turned
over to the person in the office in charge of the prisoner’s
effects and the amount was credited to the addressee
in a book the prisoners themselves kept (330).
Once censored, the package “went into a special
drawer” (333).
In Grill’s presence, (336) after the evening
roll call, parcels and regular mail were handed out
to prisoners (334) by the SS man on duty in protective
custody camp (333). The prisoners lined up in
front of the post office for parcels. A prisoner
in front of one of the post-office doors would call
out the name of addressee (335). “On the
long parcel table, another prisoner was sitting who
got from the prisoner his signature for the receipt
of the package; next to this prisoner the employee
of the post office who checked the prisoner as to the
number and name in accordance with the address on the
package; next to the employee stood the SS man on duty
in the protective custody camp was standing with the
package and he showed him this parcel and in accordance
with his orders he took out the food” (335-336).
Grills says food was always removed done by a protective-custody-camp
SS (336) never one of the postal censors (336) (360).
Food was taken out and redistributed to prisoners
according to instructions given by Ziereis in 1942,
when the rules regarding the receipt of packages changed.
Colonel Ziereis instructed that each prisoner could
only receive as much food as he could eat for two meals. The
excess from the package was either given to prisoners
who did not receive a package or to juveniles or to
those who worked very hard (336) (360).
The food taken out was placed on a table directly
behind the SS who had removed the food (336). At this
time, a portion of bologna or bread or sausage would
be cut off and placed on the table behind the SS and
the rest put back into the parcel given to the prisoner
(359). On page 360, Grill says that it was the SS man
designated by the security camp commandant who determined
how the food would be distributed to which inmate. “He
made portions of those remaining food stuff. He knew
how many details would be entitled to additional food,
whether there were twenty or thirty he would make the
appropriate number of portions. Inmates would file
in on one side, get their additional food and file
out on the other side” (360) On page (336) Grill
says that certain work details would have slips from
the protective custody camp leader to allow them to
get food. (336) The original regulation regarding the
distribution of this extra food read that the protective
custody camp leaders were supposed to be in charge,
but Grill imagined that this responsibility became
too much for them, and so they appointed the roll-call
leader or labor service leader or some other high ranking
non-commissioned officer to do it (337, 361).
Grill says that block leaders never came into the
mail room while he was working there. Nor did he go
into the camp except once or twice. However, after
his duties took him away from the mailroom, corporals
were left in charge of censoring, and at this time
block leaders with higher ranks might have taken “some
liberty” (337).
Foreign mail, including Red Cross packages which occasionally
arrived for French or Spanish prisoners was censored
in Mauthausen (334), and so they would arrive at 4:30
already opened (334). This mail was also handed
out after evening roll call (334). Of all the
packages received, 80% of them were from Poland (333). The
largest part of these Polish packages consisted of
butter, bread, bacon, and sometimes cigarettes and
sausage (334). Red Cross packages did not arrive
regularly. In fact, until 1943, only one man,
Guyer, received packages from the Swiss Red Cross (334). The
Red Cross packages consisted of tobacco cans filled
with meat, fish, cookies, and chocolate. German
packages were the only packages in which oranges and
chocolates came. Grill recalls these details because
a triplicate list of the contents came with the package
and had to be signed and returned to Prague (334).
The Red Cross packages to French or Spanish prisoners
were censored at Mauthausen because they had censors
there who could read French or Spanish (364).
Censoring
Until 1943, Grill censored mail himself, but he increasingly
took on a supervisory role (329). In the mail room,
Grill personally supervised four to five SS men who
censored the mail and packages and a detail of five
or six prisoners (328) who filed the prisoners’ incoming
and outgoing mail according to their filing system,
affixed stamps on outgoing mail, and loaded and unloaded
parcels (329). Two prisoners in the office kept it
clean (333). Grill and the man from the Mauthausen
post office trained additional censors for two or three
months, but eventually Grill only helped with the censoring
if there was a great need for him to do so which he
says happened two or three times a month. Three SS
men usually worked at this job, relieving each other
(333).
After October 1943, Grill ordered that only short
letter could be written because of the overburden of
work (365) only after the main post office at Mauthausen
directed him to do so (367). From October 1943
until his duties were terminated in August 1944, 1-2
SS censors censored 25,000 letters and 15,000-18,000
packages per month. Grill had tried to get more censors
at Gusen, since Mauthausen had 10 or 12 censors, but
had not succeeded (365).
Reports on other camps, and anything against the Reich
were cut out of a letter (330). Sketches and
drawings were burned (330), and pictures were returned
to sender (329). Usually, Grill would let the
prisoner see the picture and then return it to the
sender (329). Money that was sent, was given
to the office that took care of personal effects of
prisoners, and the addressee was accredited the amount. The
prisoners took the book that held this information
(330). Wine, liquor, pants, money hidden in baked
bread or fats, and drawings or sketches in bread were
confiscated as well (361). The mention of work
methods, sickness, and work places was forbidden by
the camp commander (367). Underwear was also
forbidden (359).
After the 14th or 15th of August, 1944 after Grill
was transferred to work in the Welfare and NSDAP office,
he never returned to the mailroom, which was now under
SS First Lieutenant Riemer (365). As the bombardments
increased, disrupting mail service and the retreat
from the eastern front proceeded, the volume of mail
decreased (366).
Beatings Associated with
the Mail Room
Grill admitted to personally beating prisoners who
violated mail regulations with a few slaps or hits
with a stick. Prisoners used code words and bible citations
to give information about the conditions in the camps
or about food ration, which was forbidden (339). Prisoners
were also forbidden to write that they had not received
all the contents of their packages (374) but had to
say that they had received everything (375). He
would write reports only on those prisoners who had
been warned once, or even two or three times, but if
the same prisoner violated the rules Grill would write
them up and they would be punished by transfer to a
punishment detail or with 25 lashes or with an entry
in the prisoner’s personal records. Reporting
every such violation would have taken too much time
and would have brought a more severe punishment (339). Grill’s
personal beatings were to prevent heavier punishment
on the prisoner from the camp commander or the authorities
(338) such as longer terms in the concentration camp.
Grill claims that many prisoners were released from
Gusen in 1941 and 1942 (339).
As an example Grill offers the instance when Krause
took an uncensored letter to a prisoner. Grill punished
him to prevent further occurrences (338). Grill says
that Krause decided to let Grill punish him because
a report would have meant more severe punishment (338).
On questioning by the president of the court, Grill
said that in punishing Krause himself rather than reporting
him, he did not have the discretion to do so according
to the SS. This incident was a matter of the post office,
Grill explained, and did not concern the camp commander
(375-376).
Grill also says, “I myself can remember two
cases of burglary in the post office, where several
packages had been stolen, and furthermore during the
receipt of packages at the time when all the parcels
were handed out prisoners took the parcels addressed
to other prisoners by faking the number of the other
prisoner on their arm as well as on their chest and
put the number on their own shirt, and in this manner
they were able to receive the parcel of the other prisoner
who was on night duty. For the employees of the post
office and the SS men in charge of handing out the
parcels, of course it was impossible to remember the
name of the face that was supposed to have received
the package among the many hundreds of prisoners” (340).
Those who received parcels were often robbed by other
prisoners not ten or fifteen meters from the post office.
Grill said these thieves were punished. There were
criminals among the Germans as well as the Poles who
needed to be punished to deter crime (340).
A Soldier
Following Mail Orders
Grill estimates that aside from the prisoners working
for him in the post office, he came into contact with
as many as a thousand prisoners a day, depending on
the number of packages, while he worked at the Gusen
camp post office (340). The name Grill became synonymous
with the post office and therefore with the censoring
of mail and the removal of objects from packages (340).
In regards to his conduct in the mailroom, Grill says
that he was following strict orders correctly. “I
was a soldier and carried out my duties in accordance
with my instructions as a soldier (341).
“We were bound by orders which came down from
the Reichsführer SS or from the camp commandant.
We simply had to carry out such orders without making
many questions (350) about such orders. Himmler himself
was quite often in the camp and saw the conditions
there and gave his orders accordingly. Had we not carried
out these orders we would have been subject to the
most severe punishment by the SS Corps without any
questions of consideration whatsoever” (351).
Chmielewski and
Drunken Beatings
In regards to the accusations that he and Chmielewski
went through the camp at night and pulled prisoners
out of their beds and beat them, Grill says that he
was never at Gusen between 1 and 2 am but went home
when his duties were over at 6 pm. While on duty as
officer of the day, Grill had nothing to do with the
protective custody camp but only with the SS barracks
and the camp headquarters’ staff. The block leader
on duty had responsibility for the protective custody
camp from one evening until the next. He stayed in
the Jourhaus until the proper signal was given, and
then toured the camp to make sure the lights and fires
had been put out (343).
Grill claims he had no relationship with Chmielewski
because the mail room had no connection to the custody
camp. Chmielewski asked Grill to report incidents in
the mail room to him, and when Grill did not, the camp
commandant developed a disliking for him and had him
punished for it on a few occasions (344). Grill
says he had little contact with other members of the
headquarters staff. As evidence that Chmielewski disliked
him, he offers the example of a time when the camp
commandant broke all the windows in the post office
and shot out the lights with his pistol (345). Grill
heard that once after Chmielewski had been drinking
in the non-commissioned officers club with SS Master
Sergeant Jentsch and SS Tech Sergeant Kluge all three
had gone through the camp (345). Grill does not believe
they were the only two SS to be involved in beatings
resulting in death (268).
SS in
Camp
SS Master Sergeant Jentsch was head clerk of the SS
under Chmielewski. Schmidt was head clerk under Seidler. “The
labor commitment leader and role call leader during
the time of Chmielewski was Brust, Kluge, Damaski [sic],
and Knockl” (345)
Deaths in
the Camp
Deaths in the camp occurred in many forms. Prisoners
were shot when trying to escape, killed by electrical
current, baths, gassing, hangings and undernourishment
(347). Grill personally participated in one execution
by hanging as a spectator. Grill was ordered
to attend the hanging, but he did not personally carry
out the hanging (347). He never participated
in deaths by baths. He heard about the deaths
from Krause (348) who had worked in the post office
from 1941 until the middle of 1943 (353). Grill
says his knowledge of the causes of death in the camps
was hearsay. He heard about them from the prisoners
who worked in his post office (353), Krause and Nogai
(354). Later in this trial (376), Grill acknowledges
that his post office received daily reports about which
prisoners had died and which were transferred, but
declined to estimate under oath how many deaths were
reported daily except to say that in the number who
died in 1942 was greater than in 1943 or 1944 (376).
During his service in Gusen I, from1940-1945, he only
saw two dead prisoners carried past the post office,
shot while trying to escape and so could not offer
testimony other than hearsay about the gassings or
bathing-to-death or other means of death at Gusen (353). During
his work at Gusen I, he never had anything to do with
prisoners’ living quarters (340). He never
went into the camp after 1 or 2 am because he did not
reside there. He only went into the barracks
(343).
Chmielewski and his inner group were the only ones
who knew about the deaths by gassing and baths (349). Spotted
fever was one disease that was very prevalent in the
camp. It even took the lives of many SS men (346),
forty SS men in the fall of 1941 when the camp doctor
and Chmielewski ordered the delousing of the protective
custody camp as well as the SS barracks and “my
own barracks” (355). But Grill never heard of
the gassing of 156 Russians. Russians were not allowed
to write letters and so he had no contact with them
in his position in the post office (250). He never
heard about the gassings until he was a prisoner at
Glasenbach (354).
Grill wasn’t allowed into the inner camp until
1942 when he received a pass with a photograph. Until
that time he had to enter accompanied by a block leader
(349), he was never as far back in the camp as the
baths are described to be. Grill suggests that Kowalski
and others have confused him with Tech Sergeant Gross,
who looked like Grill but was a great friend of Chmielewski’s
so much so that Chmielewski took Gross with him when
he left for Hertogenbosch in Holland (350). On 358
Grill testifies that he was so well known in the camp
as head of the post office it is unlikely that anyone
would mistake him for someone else (358).
Tuttas, Wilhelm, inmate and victim (Prosecution Exhibit
P-25 Mauthausen Death Book, Mauthausen Trial page 332,
Schuettauf Trial page 503).
Testimony of Herbert Hartung
Born on June 7, 1906, Hartung was a merchant and a
resident national of Neukirchen, Germany. He owned
his own business in 1939 at the start of the war. He
says he had nothing to do with the military before
the war but joined the “motorized SS” in
1933. On March 27, 1940, he was drafted into the 13th
SS Regiment in Vienna (435). He was assigned “on
account of my driver’s license” to the
motorized detachment of the regiment and resided in
Vienna until May 1940 when a guard company was organized
out of the regiment (435). On May 14, 1940, 170 men
in the guard company “moved toward Gusen” (436).
SS Captain Habben was in charge of the battalion [the
process of formation is unclear in the transcript]
and SS First Lieutenant Konradi was in charge of Hartung’s
guard company, the Third Guard Company. After a few
days, Hartung was sent to the SS hospital at Dachau
for heart trouble. After four weeks, he was sent back
to the Third Guard Company at Gusen where he worked
as a telephone operator in the central office outside
the protective security camp from August 3, 1940, until
June 1941 (436). He worked 24 hours on and 24 hours
off until a corporal was given the job. Then he became
an orderly in the SS officers’ quarters until
March 1942 (437). Two or three orderlies were on duty
from six am until midnight or two in the morning (438).
Chmielewski
Hartung testifies that SS Captain Chmielewski treated
the SS and prisoners alike. “When he was drunk
he wasn’t afraid of anything” (438). One
summer Chmielewski put Hartung in the refrigerator
where he remained until a comrade let him out twenty
minutes later after hearing Hartung’s knocking.
Hartung was sick for three days with a bad cold as
a result. “Otherwise I haven’t any injury” (438).
Chmielewski’s group consisted of five or six
men, including non-commissioned Officers Jentsch, Brust,
and Kluge and the ones he mentioned before [presumably
Konradi and Habben 436]. This group was always together,
during the day and night. When the others left, these “really
got rough” (438). When asked what these men did
when they left the officers’ club drunk, Hartung
says he remembers hearing they once went into the camp
with a dog and that they broke all the furniture in
the officers’ club (439). Grill was never present
with these men although he sometimes came in for a
beer “during the general meal for non-commissioned
officers” (440), but then “he disappeared” (440).
Hartung believes Grill ate at home (440).
Hartung as
Detail and Block Leader in the Quarries
Hartung did not enter the protective custody camp
until March 1943 when he was assigned as block leader
and assistant detail leader in the stone quarries (440),
the Kastenhof quarries, until September 1943, where
he was in charge of between 400 and 500 prisoners.
In the morning prisoners would move through “the
second so-called Peek-door” after the large guard
detail was at its posts. These work details were never
accompanied by guards because the guard chain was already
in place and the prisoners knew their work places and
automatically went to them (441).
From September 1943, at the time when Kowalski testified
about the murder of American prisoner [Willie Tuttas]
for sabotage, Hartung says that he was actually in
the Gusen Quarry and detail leader of the prisoners’ fire
department (441). When asked if it was true that, as
Kowalski said, Hartung was responsible for Tuttas’ death
because Hartung had “led him away” (463)
to the bunker, Hartung says he had “nothing to
do with his death or his life” (463).
Hartung and the Prisoners’ Fire
Brigade
He was in charge of the fire brigade beginning in
March 1943, before the motorized equipment arrived
in fall of 1943 (450). As detail leader for the prisoners’ fire
brigade, Hartung was responsible for any fires in the
entire camp. He was responsible for personnel and their
training and “sports, gymnastics, as well as,
in September 1943 we received motorized fire equipment” (442).
These duties took up “all forenoon, nearly until
noon. At noon I went to the stone quarry and took care
of the noon roll call. And I wasn’t alone there
either. Others were led to the stone quarries” (442).
In 1944 two SS master Sergeants arrived to work as
detail leaders (442). While he was working with the
fire brigade, he says that either no one or a block
leader took care of the quarry (442).
At the sound of an air raid, Hartung would go to the
garage as quickly as possible and would be met there
by ten prisoners. They would go out without an SS guard
as escort and drive about two or two and a half kilometers
to an unused stone quarry where (442) they would take
cover (443). In 1944 the “neighborhood” [Defense
Attorney Dr. Kluge’s term] experienced one to
three air raids a day “without exception” (442).
After September 1944 “or really already the summer
of 1942” (446), Hartung testifies that he was
nearly always on the fire brigade (446).
As leader of the brigade, he had access to all parts
of the camp and was responsible for water mains and
pipes inside the camp as well as the equipment in the
garage. He was also responsible for finding fire hazards
and making sure that every barracks had a bucket of
water and a sandbox. He made these inspections “every
two or three months” (464) throughout the camp
(465).
The Bunker
and Willie Tuttas
In answer to the question, “Was a key to the
bunker ever in your possession and if so, in what capacity,” Hartung
answers, “The block leader in charge had the
key to the bunker in his office” (444). But Hartung
denies ever hearing or seeing an American prisoner
in the bunker who was starved to death over the course
of nine or ten days (444-5). In his experience, prisoners
were only kept in the bunker for “one or two
days at the most” (445). He says he only had
responsibility in the bunker when “two, three,
or four prisoners were brought to the bunker for interrogation.
Then the other prisoners were locked up in cells” (444).
Gassings
He denies participating in gassing prisoners in 1945,
saying that he was transferred to the newly organized
SS Tank Regiment No. 1 in March 1945 (445). He did
not actually leave the camp until April 15, 1945. As
telephone operator for SS Tank Regiment No. I, his
duties, to “make the telephone connections from
the regiment to the headquarters of the various companies,” (451)
allowed him to return to Gusen I every night to eat
and sleep (451). He never stood outside the barracks
while prisoners were being gassed to make sure that
none escaped. He could not have been there because
as head of the fire brigade he was always in the barracks
(445). He left the camp “completely” on
April 15, 1945 (451). When he returned from the SS
Tank Regiment No. 1 in the evenings, he never heard
about any gassing of prisoners, only about delousing.
He recalls that his barracks was deloused in 1941 or
1942. Otherwise he only recalls the delousing station
near the kitchen (452).
Aside from his duties with the fire brigade and those
assigned by Chmielewski, he was also assigned to work
with the women telephone operators in the central office,
and to transport prisoners to Mauthausen, or to accompany
prisoners outside the camp, or to work in the officers’ mess. “I
had a variety of duties” (446). In addition,
he was sent to Berlin in 194-[exact year unreadable
in the copy] for special training about fires and fire
brigades (446).
Murder on
the Electric Wire
He denies having thrown ten prisoners onto the electric
wire on Chmielewski’s orders (445). Hartung says
that Chmielewski did not return in 1945 and that Seidler
was in charge after Chmielewski left in 1942 (446).
Beating of
Russian Prisoners-of-War
Hartung denies beating Russian prisoners on Roll-Call
Square in August 1944, an incident reported by Jaroszewicz
which left 40 dead (446). He says he has no recollection
of any such incident, and that the only time he saw
dead bodies was after an accident in the stone quarry
that left three dead (447) in the Unterbruch (453).
He never saw any beatings of any prisoners in the quarry. “But
I wasn’t there every day. I had other duties
also” (453). He does remember seeing beatings
when the prisoners returned from work in the evenings
and when food was given out at noontime in the quarries
(454). When asked about the contradiction, he says, “Beatings,
yes, beatings, that is always a big word” (454)
and explains that he did not see any “large scale
beatings” (454) but agrees that he did see many
small scale beatings (454).
He admits to having beaten a prisoner once himself
because the prisoner forged his name to receive a second
extra ration from the post office. This beating took
place in front of the stone-cutter’s hall in
1944 (453).
Causes of
Death at Gusen
Hartung says he never saw any dead bodies brought
back by the work details in the evenings (453) and
denies seeing any killings in the quarry (454). He
says that guilt for the deaths at Gusen should be placed
on the “higher headquarters starting with the
Reich’s Economic Administration Office, over
the various administrative leaders. And as for Gusen
itself, the managers Walter, and Wolfram, they always
requested large numbers of prisoners and more prisoners” (447)
to work in the quarries and construct large halls,
but they failed to provide adequate food and clothing.
At the time the crematorium at Gusen was built in 1942
(447), Hartung did not discuss this with other SS. “I
had nothing to do with it. I was only a telephone operator
at that time” (448).
He says that the large number of deaths at the time
the crematory was built were due to poor food and the
fog coming from the Danube in June, July, and August
1942. “It was a very unhealthy climate, and we
also had to suffer from it” (449). He cannot
identify any causes of death other than this (449).
Hartung admitted to shooting at prisoner Josef Leitzinger
(461) around ten o’clock am on January 16, 1945,
(460) but says that the prisoner was already dead from
a bullet from SS Sergeant Polweit (455). Leitzinger
was “A German, I mean an Austrian green man,
that means a professional criminal” (456) whom
Hartung and Polwieit were ordered to take to Mauthausen.
Leitzinger had gotten into a drunken fight with another
prisoner at Gusen II and stabbed him. Leitzinger’s
victim “died the same night” (456). An
unnamed SS technical sergeant [unnamed] in the political
department told the Hartung and Polweit that one of
them should make a report about the shooting. Hartung
wrote the report (456)
Hartung says that he was in the garage [presumably
at Gusen I] when he received the order to escort the
prisoner with Poweleit. “Poweleit and I grabbed
a rifle [sic], as it was customary when prisoners were
transferred and went to Gusen II. That is approximately
600 meters from Gusen I. At the Jourhaus of Gusen II
the prisoner was handed over to us and that was when
I saw the prisoner for the first time” (457). “When
one leaves Gusen II one is outside the chain of guards.
After one has marched about two-thirds of the way,
one returns automatically into the guard chain of Gusen
I” (457). After going one-third of the way, about
fifteen meters from the Gusen I guard chain, Leitzinger “jumped
to the right to the area which leads to the Danube
River” (457). Poweleit and Tandler started
after him and shouted for him to halt. Then Poweleit
shot him. After that, after having unsecured his rifle,
Hartung also shot him. When he shot, the prisoner was
already falling to the ground (457). In an earlier
interrogation, Hartung had stated that he shot Joseph
Leitzinger to death (461). Hartung explains that he
meant that both he and Poweleit had received the order
together (462).
Testimony of Alfons Hugo Heisig
Alfons Hugo Heisig, a 40 year old German man, a chimney
sweeper from Neesen, Westphalia, said that he was drafted
on November 5, 1939, “by written order” (466)
into the Waffen SS and sent to Brunn, Czechoslovakia
with the 7th SS Regiment for training until December
20, 1939. He was sent to Ebelsberg, near Linz,
Austria, still with the 7th SS Regiment (466). A private,
he stayed there until mid January 1940, when he was
sent to the 13th SS Regiment in Vienna. In May, he
was then assigned to the 3rd SS Guard Company, attached
to the Guard Company Gusen. He worked there as
a guard from May 15, 1940, until August 1943 (467).
He was promoted to Private First Class in November
1940, to Corporal in November 1941, and Sergeant in
January 1944 (470).
While serving with the guard company, he only entered
the protective custody camp once when he was ordered
to be present at an execution by Commander Ziereis.
A prisoner was hung on Roll-Call Square (467).
In August 1943 after Waffen SS men from the headquarters
staff were transferred to active duty, he and six other
men were assigned the duty of block leader and detail
leader. He reported to the roll-call leader who
was “you might say the acting first Sergeant
of the headquarters staff” (468). He also met
SS Tech Sergeant Schmidt (468) (clerk of the protective
custody camp), First Lieutenant Beck (2nd protective
custody camp leader) and Labor Service Leader Fissel. He
was assigned to be auxiliary detail leader at the Stone
Quarry Gusen. When asked how long, he answers “In
a chain of command” (469). He alternated
this detail with being detail leader of the Steyr armament
factory (469).
Duties of
Detail Leader
In the morning, the entire headquarters staff would “fall
out in front of the protective custody camp” (470). “And
the roll-call leader would report the strength to the
protective-custody leader” (470) who was in charge
of roll call. At this time, special duties might be
assigned, which was the only time Heisig had further
contact with the headquarters staff (470). Detail leaders
were on duty from seven am when prisoners marched out
of the camp until five pm when they returned (477).
He was a leader of one to two thousand men. His
duties included bringing the men to their places of
work. “There we were assigned to the details
through the various civilian foremen and master mechanics” (469).
Along with the guards, discipline was handled by capos
and assistant capos and masters in the work halls (469).
Evenings for
Non-Commissioned Officers at Gusen
Two or three men shared a single room. Their evening
meal was served in the non-commissioned officer’s
club where they all ate around a single table. After
dinner “everybody went after his own hobbies
or interests” (471). Heisig could not testify
about the group that gathered around the commandant
because he left immediately after the meal. He says
that usually only the roll-call leader and the leaders
of the guard companies, all officers, stayed with the
commandant (471).
Chmielewski
Heisig only saw Chmielewski when he was a guard. Chmielewski
had already left when he joined the headquarters staff
and became a non-commissioned officer (472). While
still at Gusen, Heisig heard that Chmielewski returned
to Gusen in 1945 for two short stays, although not
as camp leader (472).
Grill
and the Mail
[Quoted directly here because of a possible mistranslation]
Defense Attorney Kluge: What was the position of the
post office there in camp and what kind of relationship
existed between the post office and the headquarters
staff if you are able to make any observations? (469)
Heisig: In fact, the post office [headquarters is
probably meant] had nothing to do with selection of
the post office staff. Only when packages came directly
from Mauthausen, these packages were handed out to
prisoners directly in camp. (470)
Heisig had no contact with Grill at the post office.
When he had reason to go to the post office, a corporal
or a Sergeant was on duty behind the window. Heisig
did not see Grill in the con-commissioned officer’s
club at night. Married men were fed in St. Georgen,
about four kilometers away (472).
Freezing Prisoners
with Water or Bathing-to-Death
Defense Attorney Kluge asks Heisig if Kowalski was
correct when saying that water was poured over weakened
prisoners to kill them. Heisig says no. Then Kluge
asks if it might be true that water was poured over
prisoners in the summer heat to revive them. Heisig
says he never heard or saw of such a thing (473). He
says that “all the water trenches” (473)
that came from the mountains were covered. There
was no access to water in the stone quarry, “the
closest water trench was alongside the fence that surrounded
the non-commissioned officers club” (473).
Heisig heard of bathing-to-death but says this only
happened under Chmielewski when he, Heisig, was still
in the Third Guard Company. During this time, Heisig
only entered the camp once (473). Heisig has no memory
of any of the witnesses and says they have no reason
to remember him. He passed by the bath house several
times, but never entered it (473)
Quoted directly because of non-sequitur:
Defense Attorney Kluge: Furthermore, you are supposed
to have participated in those bathings by standing
outside and preventing prisoners from leaving. (474)
Heisig’s answer: I heard about gassings for
the first time here during my interrogations. Before
I didn’t hear about it. (474)
Heisig then says that at the time the bathing-to-death
was supposed to have taken place, he had no duties
in the protective custody camp at all but was still
a member of the guard company. Accompanying prisoners
to the bath was the duty of the block eldest (477)
.
He heard about bathing-to-death from prisoners in
his detail but never heard screaming coming from the
bathhouse (478).
Gassing of
Prisoners in Barracks
When asked if he ever heard about gassings in order
to delouse barracks, Heisig says that his barracks
was gassed as well, sometime in 1941 and 1942 (474)
while he was stationed in the guard barracks outside
the camp (475). He knew about the preparations for
gassing barracks from the time he was on guard duty,
but never saw these preparations inside the camp (478). He
heard about gassing of barracks for the purpose of
delousing inside the camp in 1943 or 1944, but not
1945, and never heard of gassing prisoners (478). When
he was on guard duty inside the camp after 1943, he
remembers gassing of barracks “for the purpose
of delousing” (475) after the block eldest
reported the conditions regarding lice and vermin within
the barracks. The talk in the camp about the source
of the vermin problem was that “There were many
prisoners who didn’t feel it was necessary to
wash every day. For this purpose some of the block
eldest handed out food stamps every morning and these
food stamps the prisoners received only after they
washed themselves and only then could they get breakfast.
Heisig admits he is referring only to regular prisoners,
and not Russian POWs. (475) Asked to continue
with the “normal procedure which took place when
barracks were gassed” (476), Heisig says that
all the prisoners had to go to another barracks, leaving
their clothes behind, then “all the openings
in the block were covered and then the men who take
care of the gassing job went inside there” (476).
Civilians who carried out the gassings wore gas masks.
(476).
Asked by Defense Attorney Kluge if it is possible
that that “such a gassing of barracks was misunderstood
and some people saw not only the barracks were gassed
but the people in there,” (476), Heisig says
he believes it is possible. Asked if he has “any
indication, any statement, any remark” as an
evidence of this confusion (476), Heisig says, “The
same way as it is now during our imprisonment that
latrine rumors are coming up, it was the same at that
time in the camp” (476).
Beating Prisoners
Heisig admits to having beaten prisoners, but never
to death and only when they committed a crime. “That
jackets were stolen from the civilian foremen, tools
were stolen, rubber hoses were stolen. Potatoes were
stolen” (477). Asked what proportion of prisoners
were actually criminals, Heisig says he cannot respond
(477). He beat prisoners with his hands and with a
rubber hose, but with a stick “very seldom” (477).
He denies beating a prisoner until blood came from
his head for stealing a potato because the witness
said this happened on a Sunday and potatoes were never
brought into the camp on Sunday (480).
In response to Gomez’ testimony that he was
the most feared in the camp (480), he says that some
prisoners were always trying to avoid work and therefore
called attention to themselves. They would leave work,
making things worse for their co-prisoners, and spend
all their time trying to “organize” (481)
food, thus drawing attention to themselves (481).
Living Conditions
In his time as detail leader in the quarry, Heisig
never saw a prisoner die in the quarry (478) and never
saw a prisoner collapse (478-479). “Accidents
happened and they were brought back to camp right away” (479).
He did see dead bodies (479).
Three hundred prisoners lived in one barracks. As
far as living conditions, Heisig says, “In my
time, it was not so bad anymore, not as bad as in the
time of Chmielewski” (479). Prisoners told him
things were worse under Chmielewski (479).
Executions
He never saw a prisoner shot but heard of prisoners
being shot for attempting to escape (479). He never
saw execution squads and was only told about them by
prisoners who did not tell him who was on the execution
squads. The execution squads were drawn from the various
guard companies (480).
Testimony of Willi Jungjohann
Jungjohann was initially interrogated
during a line-up at Dachau. When asked by Defense Attorney
Kluge if he ever saw the record of this interrogation,
or if he ever signed it, Jungjohann says no. This is
the “initial interrogation” to which the
summary below refers (391).
Biographical Information
Willi Jungjohann, a forty-five year old shipyard helper,
was employed as such in Saatsee, Rensburg, in 1939
(378), He had no previous military service before the
war. Drafted November 7, 1939, into the Fifth Deathhead
Standard Oranienburg, he was trained in Oranienburg
until February 10, 1940, when the entire company was
transferred to Mauthausen. He was at Mauthausen for
a total of two hours when he moved to Gusen I. He stayed
at Gusen I from January 11, 1940, until the middle
of April 1945 (379). On September 1, 1940, he was promoted
to SS Private First Class, and on January 30, 1942,
he made SS Corporal (380). From January 11, 1940, until
August 1943 he only did guard duty outside of the security
camp with the First Guard Company at Gusen (380). In
August 1943 he was transferred to headquarters staff
and became block leader and detail leader (381). As
block leader, he said he only entered the security
camp during roll call (391). From January 1944 to August
1944 he had Detail Kasten hoff [sic] Oberbruch, and
from September 1944 until the middle of April 1945
he had Detail Messerschmitt (387).
Contact
with inmates
Jungjohann testifies that guards were to have nothing
to do with prisoners and could not leave their posts
except to keep prisoners from escaping. The only time
he was inside the security camp was when his entire
unit was ordered to march inside the camp to watch
a hanging (380).They were to keep a distance of 4-6
meters while escorting them, and at their place of
work they had no contact (380-381). He says guards
were not given special privileges if they shot an inmate.
He denies having kicked prisoners at the Gusen quarry
and causing them to fall twenty meters and says that
while he was detail leader at the Oberbruch, nothing
of this sort happened (381).
Furloughs
According to Jungjohann furloughs were only given
out by the commander of Mauthausen Ziereis (381).
Executions
During his initial interrogation, Jungjohann said
he never witnessed an execution (388). During this
trial, he says he only went into the security camp
on one occasion for an execution. The whole company
was ordered into the camp to witness the hanging of
one person (380).
Death of
a Spaniard
Jungjohann denies Berdzenski’s testimony that
he always carried a stick in his hand and beat inmates
or that he injured or killed a Spaniard in the fall
of 1943. Berdzenski had testified that Spaniards were
working on the railroad, pushing and pulling cars when
one derailed. He remembers that “Jung” came
over and started beating them, murdering one. Jungjohann
denies this happened (393).
Treatment of
Prisoners
In response to a question from the Court President
about whether the SS guards had discretion to punish
prisoners, Jungjohann answers that they did not. He
also says that no SS was ever punished for breaking
this rule (391).
Jungjohann admits to having beaten prisoners with
a stick perhaps four or five times (386). During his
initial interrogation at Dachau he had said, in answer
to the question, “How often did you kick [prisoners]?” his
answer was “Now and then, naturally.” (388)
He testified at this trial that he beat inmates “four
or five times, several times with a stick and repeatedly
with my hands” (386). During this trial, Jungjohann
denies Kowalski’s charge that he kicked prisoners
at the Oberbruch, causing them to fall 20 meters (381,
392). Jungjohann tells the court that he was not detail
leader in Oberbruch at that time (381) but was leader
of Detail Messerschmitt (392). To Kowalski’s
charge that among those who fell at the Oberbruch there
were corpses and some with broken feet, Jungjohann
recalls that while he was detail leader in the upper
quarry there were only a “few” injuries
that happened because of accidents, but “deaths
never occurred there” (392).
Jungjohann testifies about an incident relating to
the punishment of a gypsy [sic] for stealing and storing
potatoes in the barracks. He relates to the court the
danger that fire posed in the workshops, and says the
theft of potatoes was a loss to other inmates. Because
he didn’t want to give an official report, he
beat the man himself. He tells the court, that if he
had made a report, the inmate would have been punished
more severely (386). He denies Gomez’ testimony
that, in 1944, he mistreated prisoners by kicking them
and hitting them with his hands, Jungjohann admits
to slapping the faces of the inmates (393).
American Flyers
During his initial interrogation at Dachau, Jungjohann
said that he never came into the vicinity of any American
flyers. He denies having said during the earlier interrogation
that he was in the Jourhaus that night doing auxiliary
duty as a block leader with two others, and that he
was in charge (389). When asked during this trial,
he said that the day the American flyers were shot
down, SS Sergeant Kaiser was the block leader
on duty at the Jourhaus who was in charge of the bunker.
That night SS Sergeant Krstechmar was in charge of
the bunker and he, Jungjohann, was Krstchmar’s
[sic] deputy (389). He says he was in Detail
Orberbruch when eight to ten American planes were shot
down and seven or eight flyers parachuted out of them
between Gusen and Linz (382). In the immediate area
of Camp Gusen I, the anti-aircraft artillery was shooting
at the planes (382-383). In the immediate area of Gusen
I Jungjohann saw three fliers. One flyer came down
in the direction of St. Georgen, another in the direction
of the village of Gusen, and one came down “towards
the mountains to the right of St. Georgen, but closer
to Gusen” (383). He only remembers one flyer
brought into the camp from St. Georgen. Jungjohann
testifies, “He was locked up in the bunker and
from there he was led to the dispensary” (383).
The flyer was brought to Dr. Vetter and SS Master Sergeant
Seidler, and a medic [unnamed] in the SS dispensary
to be bandaged and then led back to the bunker and “supposedly
taken to Mauthausen two days later” (384). Jungjohann
said the flyer had “a rag on his head over his
eyes and his face was black” (389) but denies
having said that the flyer had been shot when questioned
earlier (389). He says that he heard later that SS
Sergeant Sauer supposedly shot one of the fliers, although
most of the details of this he learned while a prisoner
in Dachau (384). In Kowalski’s testimony he remembers, “Jung
fired two or three shots at him, and the flier fell
down. He was about 4,5 meters behind the flier” (392).
Jungjohann testifies that he had a witness to his actions,
a one SS Master Sergeant Reichert who was with him
at the upper quarry during the air attack (393).
The “Beast”
Glowacki had
testified, “Jung was the most brutal man at Gusen
I: he was known as the ‘Beast’” (394). “Jung” denies
this testimony. He tells the court he was not known
as the “Beast.” “If I had been a
beast I would not have taken inmates back into the
camp during night shift when they took sick” (387).
He relates to the court how, during a night shift,
he took to the dispensary one inmate who had a metal
splinter in his eye. He tells how he awakened the doctor
so that the man could have the splinter removed (387).
Testimony of Jan Janusz Kamienski
Jan Janusz Kamienski was a twenty seven year old Polish
national. At the time of the trial, he was unemployed
and studying medicine in Augsburg, Germany. He was
a prisoner in Gusen I from June 6, 1940, until February
9, 1943. For his first two months in the camp he carried
stones. For two months after that he was on the camp-cleaning
detail. The remainder of his time at Gusen he worked
in the Kastenhof Quarry (128) where he was clerk in
1942 (133). Kamienski was transferred to Dachau as
an electrician (153).
Of all the defendants, Kamienski said he was most
familiar with SS Sergeant Wilhelm Grill (129a). He
states that Grill was in charge of the mail room, and
censored mail and packages prisoners received on holidays.
After 1942, Grill censored the packages they received
from home. Under Grill’s negligent administration,
prisoners were not allowed to write letters for three
months in 1942. Kamienski’s parents became worried
and wrote a letter to the headquarters of Gusen I in
June or July 1942 (129a). As a result, Grill called
Kamienski into his office for “interrogation,” which
prisoners understood to mean a beating (129a-129b).
Grill shouted at Kamienski, “You Polish swine,
why didn’t you write a letter home?” (129b)
Kamienski reminded Grill that prisoners could not write
home for three months. Grill beat Kamienski repeatedly
until Kamienski answered that he had not written home “because
of his own carelessness” (129b). Grill then made
Kamienski sit and write a letter to his family which
read “I am well, I am healthy. Your letter I
have received with great joy and I thank you very much
for it. Your loving son.” (129b). According to
Kamienski, beatings of prisoners by Grill were a daily
occurrence (129b). Grill beat prisoners in Block 3
with an oxtail whip for adding an extra word to their
letters (132).
Kamienski testifies to the fact that Grill stole food
stuff from packages that were meant for the prisoners
(129b). In December, 1942, Kamienski received a package
that was supposed to weigh approximately twenty-two
pounds but all that was left was a loaf of bread and
some spilled marmalade (129b-130).
“The bathing of invalids” took place,
according to Kamienski, from approximately September
1941 until October or September 1942 (130) mostly in
the afternoon or evening under the supervision of Camp
Leader Schmielewski [sic] and SS Master Sergeant Lynch
(146, 162). Kamienski tells that the naked invalids
were taken in large groups. He goes on to describe
them as “walking skeletons” (130). In
March or April of 1942, Kamienski was in the dispensary
visiting his friend the “wardmen” (131).
On leaving, he tried to “pass through the gate
that was between Block 27 and Block 28” (131)
but was stopped by the gatekeeper. From the door of
the dispensary, he witnessed a group from Block 32
being taken to the baths (131) at the end of Blocks
27 and 28 (142) by SS Master Sergeant Grill and block
eldest of Block 43 [sic], Karl Schraegle [spelled Shroegle
on 130-131]. After getting the group to the bathhouse,
the inmates understood what was going to happen to
them. They were beaten with sticks and kicked to make
them go into the baths by SS Technical Sergeant Brust
Brust and the Block Eldest of Block 32. Grill stood
in the entrance and kicked or beat inmates with a stick
he held in his left hand (131). Those who remained
lying outside in front of the bathhouse were dragged
into it by Brust and the block eldest of Block 32.
Approximately 25 to 30 corpses were taken to the washroom
in Block 22 and those still alive were lead back to
Block 32 by Block 32’s eldest (132). According
to Kamienski, the bathhouse was “a covered building.
In the center of the floor was a depression approximately
30 centimeters deep. The sides were cement walls. During
the bathing the drainage was closed so that the water
rose to the edges” (132). The invalids
were then forced to go into the water after
receiving beatings. In their weak state,
most of the invalids fell into the water
and drowned (132).
Erick
Schuettauf or, as Kamienski calls him, “General
Bauch,” meaning “belly”(129), was
the “commander of one of the companies in Gusen” (133).
While his duties concerned the guards only, he also
became involved in the treatment of prisoners (149).
According to Kamienski, when Schuettauf gave orders
to his guards, prisoners knew well that beatings would
occur shortly thereafter. Kamienski discusses one instance
when Schuettauf threatened SS Sergeant Peist with a
report if he didn’t get some prisoners in the
lower Kastenhof Quarry to “start working” (133).
The capos and head capos were called together and ordered
to take care of the problem in work detail Kieppe 2,
where mostly Russian POWs worked with sand. This order
was shortly followed with a severe beating of those
prisoners, after which 35 to 40 bodies were carried
away (134). Kamienski was told by a member of the SS
that Schuettauf had even told his guards that if one
of them shot a prisoner, they would receive cigarettes
and a furlough (134). Kamienski even over heard Schuettauf
telling his men “not to consider us [prisoners]
as human beings, but as murders and criminals, and
that they ought to shoot us to death or to beat us
to death. And furthermore, for doing that they would
receive cigarettes and leaves” (150).
Kamienski reports that conditions in this quarry were
so bad up to 150 prisoners were killed there a day
(133). As clerk in Kastenhof, Kamienski was personally
responsible for telling the roll-call leader how many
prisoners were returning and how many corpses were
returning (150).
Tandler
took charge of the 2,000 Russian prisoners
of war (POW) who arrived in the camp in
November or December, 1941 (134) and
occupied Blocks 13,14, 15 and 16 (150)
as well as the young Russians in Block
24 after 1942. By March 1942 only a few
were still alive (134). Tandler, who
didn’t speak Russian
well, was in sole control of the Russian
POWs wherever they worked. Most worked
in the Kastenhof quarry where Kamienski
worked. From the first day they went
to work after being quarantined for
six weeks, Tandler mistranslated the
orders for the Russians, and then he
beat them severely for not carrying
the orders out properly (135).
The
Russians were also grossly underfed,
receiving only half the rations
that the rest of the prisoners
received (135). Russians would,
when leaving the camp for the quarry,
pass to the left of the garbage
from the kitchen. The prisoners would “jump over” to
the place with the food, “potatoes mixed with
dirt” (136), and get as much of it
as they could. They were then beaten heavily
as Tandler watched. According to Kamienski,
in his two and a half years at Gusen he
had never before seen people so run down
and beaten they would eat manure (136).
The
Russians worked on the ground in the
quarry pushing material in the carts
on the narrow gage railway. Half an
hour before prisoners returned to the
camp, the “kippe” where
filled with dead or half-dead bodies, the half dead
on the bottom, by Tandler’s order, so that the
dead would crush them to death. They were taken back
to the camp on the rail-lines, where prisoners could
see those still alive open-mouthed and struggling for
air while the SS abused them (137-138). Once in the
camp, these bodies were “dumped (137). The SS
block leaders would kick those still living in the
head, saying things like, “Look at that dirty
pig. He is still alive” (138).
In approximately February 1942, Block 16, which was
90% Russian, was gassed by the guards (138). Tandler
was personally present on July 20, 1942, when a Russian
officer was hanged from a lamppost by the kitchen.
Kamienski stated that Tandler was present at 3 or 4
executions, probably as an interpreter (139).
Because
the worst criminals were specially
selected to fill positions in the camp,
such as block eldest and room eldest,
Kamienski testified that they would
steal half of the food that the Russians
were supposed to receive, either for
themselves or to give to a friend.
Even prior to this theft, the Russians’ food
was already halved from the normal prisoner
ration (139). Kamienski recounts an
example where the Block Eldest of Block
15, a prisoner wearing a green triangle,
gave away a loaf. When prisoners lined
up for their food, so much had been
stolen fifteen rations were missing.
To compensate for this, the block eldest
took the 15 weakest prisoners of Block
15 to the washroom and had them strip
naked. He then made each one drown
the man in front of him, and then be
drowned himself until all fifteen of
them were dead (139-140).
Kamienski
testified that although the screams of
those being bathed-to-death could be
heard as far away as roll-call square,
those prisoners who worked ten hours
hard labor would come back to camp so
tired they could barely eat before falling
asleep. There were two groups in the
camp. One worked ten hours a day. The
other were “prominent people” (144) prisoners
had free time and spent it playing soccer or playing
cards and “did not have time to discuss the murders
in the camps. Some of them, only those of the group
of intelligent people, showed some interest in that
regardless whether they had a position or not” (144).
Only “special occasions, executions, shooting” (144)
were generally discussed by prisoners.
While prominent prisoners, who were mostly
German until 1942 when some Poles were
given positions as block clerks, could
play soccer on Sunday, the only spectators
where block elders. Everyone else was resting.
Polish prisoners were also doctors or technical
people (145). Many prisoners knew about
the murders in the washrooms, but few new
the details (149).
Testimony
of Joseph Kowalski
Joseph
Kowalski, a thirty seven year old locksmith
and Polish national living in
Linz
at the time of
the trial, was called as a witness for
the prosecution (10). Before the war he
worked “at a Polish Magistrate” (38)
At Gusen, where he was a prisoner from
August 2, 1940, to May
5, 1945 (10), he carried stones, “put
stones together as a plasterer,” worked
as a locksmith, as a stonemason, and transpor
ted
coal to the SS barracks
in a wheelbarrow. He was assigned to different
details often, sometimes every few days
or so, until 1943 when he was permanently
assigned to be a stone mason. He worked
inside both the protective custody camp
and the SS camp. He construc
ted
the brothel for prisoners
as well as the brothel for the SS. Once
put in a punishment detail for carrying
too few stones, he also transpor
ted
stones “for the
construction of the tunnel” (48-49).
SS
Guards at KZ Gusen I
Kowalski worked as a stone
cutter in the large hall (12) which was
eleva
ted
seven or eight meters
above ground. This gave him a good view
for fifteen or twenty meters. In the summer
the stonemasons worked outside the hall
to avoid the dust inside (12). Kowalski
identifies Seidler as the camp commandant
(10), and the SS roll-call leader at the
time he worked in the stonemasons’ hall
was Kiedermann. He says the first roll-call
leader was Brust, the second was Damaschke,
and the third was Kiedermann (13). While
these men were in charge of large guard
details, Schuettauf was in charge of the “distribution
of the guards” (10), especially detail
leaders and guard leaders who guarded the
prisoners (13).
Schuettauf
and the Chain of Guards
Schuettauf was in charge
of a guard company outside the main compound
of Gusen. There was a total of three or
four guard companies of which Schuettauf
eventually became commander. He was called “General
Bauch” at this time (40) which means “Belly” (50).
No guards were allowed into the camp or
allowed to look in the camp except for
the roll-call leader, the block leaders,
and the men from the post office or guards
taking part in executions (40). The prisoners
would line up inside the camp on Roll-Call
Square in their different details and the
guards would take charge of the men as
they came out of “camp 1 or camp
2, those camps surrounded by guards” (41). “In
the case of larger details, for instance,
St. Georgen, where bricks were made, and
also the stone quarry outside the camp,
there was a detail leader, there were guards,
and there was also a guard commander” (41).
Once prisoners arrived on the worksite,
the guards were stationed around the detail
to guard them and the detail leader walked
among the men, showing them what to do
along with civilian workers. Prisoners
were prohibi
ted
from approaching guards
(41). There was a wire around the Gusen
Quarry, but not in all places and it was
loca
ted
at a great distance from
the quarry (44).
Although guards were also
prohibi
ted
from approaching prisoners,
when they were changed every two hours
or so, guards often beat prisoners, sometimes
to death. Volksdeutsche Polish guards who
had been draf
ted
into the “army” (42)
at the end of the war often talked to prisoners,
Kowalski reports, and they said that guards
were rewarded with cigarettes or furloughs
for beating or shooting prisoners (42).
Once the head of the Fire Guard, Gaertner,
chased a prisoner toward the wire in order
that he be shot (49) by guards pos
ted
on the tower between Blocks
17 and 9. The guard did not shoot the prisoner,
however, but shot at Gaertner, who fled.
A Ukrainian guard named Matejo told Kowalski
that Gaertner was motiva
ted
by the hope that he would
receive cigarettes from the guard (50).
Executions
From 1941 on Kowalski
saw and heard Schuettauf order executions
of prisoners (12) and order the detail
leaders as to the treatment of prisoners
(11). Most often, executions would be ordered
in the afternoons, but Schuettauf stood
in front of the Jourhaus in the mornings
and afternoons when details were put together
and guards were assigned (12). Kowalski
also recalls Schuettauf giving orders to
the guards standing in “front of
the office between the barracks and the
kitchen.” This happened most often
in the afternoon (12). While Kowalski could
not always hear Schuettauf’s exact
words over the sound of the stonemasons’ hammers
(13), he did see Schuettauf observing prisoners
being kicked and beaten with rifle butts
(14)
Kowalski recalls that
the guards were not always given directions
by Schuettauf, but when he did address
the guards, the prisoners were beaten and
some dead prisoners were brought back to
camp from the work details, perhaps two
or three out of 25 (14-16). In March or
April of 1942, Kowalski saw Series [spelled
Ziereis in connection with same incident
on page 46] talk to
Schuettauf near the kitchen between the “barracks
with walls” (17) barracks 6 and 7
(46). He saw two men shot to death (17)
behind the kitchen by six guards led by
Schuettauf (46). Although the block leader
chased Kowalski and other prisoners away,
Kowalski heard Schuettauf give orders and
then heard further shots. Kowalski also
saw Schuettauf give orders when five Russian
prisoners-of-war were shot in 1942 (17)
and five young Poles under the age of 15,
stone cutters, in 1944 (18). Nine times
in Kowalski’s recollection prisoners
were shot in this manner, sometimes in
the morning and sometimes in the afternoon,
after having to partially strip. Prisoners
would be called out during morning roll
call to either be shot or taken to Mauthausen
(53). There were seven or eight executions
near the crematorium in 1944. One involved
the execution of seven young Poles (55).
Grill and the
Mail
Kowalski testifies that
from the time he first saw him in 1941,
Wil
helm
Grill was a staff or
technical Sergeant of the SS. Grill was
in charge of censoring the mail which Polish
inmates sent to or received from
Poland
(18).
Kowalski never entered the post office
himself but was told that Grill was in
charge by the clerk who also told prisoners
that Grill could give them 25 lashes for
writing something that was not allowed
in a letter (66). Grill would steal bread
and sausages from the prisoners’ packages
and give them to the hierarchy of personnel
in the camp (21) (79), as well as other
SS, and sometimes to “permanent” prisoners
or prisoners who had special jobs in the
camp (20-21). The number of packages that
arrived at the camp was from 20 to 500
a day, up to 1800 a month, but prisoners
got only one or two a month (56). Despite
a 1942 order that heavy laborers should
receive extra food from these packages,
Kowalski recalls that this only happened
for a short space of time (58). The Red
Cross packages which he believed came from
Switzerland
(87)
were also pilfered toward the end of 1943
and during 1944, although of the 2,000
men who worked in the stone quarry as well
as those who worked at the tunnels, only
a few received extra rations from the packages
(58). One of Kowalski’s friends got
Red Cross package with a packet of cigarettes,
one or two tins and dry bread. He felt
that most of the package had been stolen
(79).
Grill and Bathing-to-Death
Grill also took inmates
to the baths. In January of 1942 Kowalski
saw the block leader of Block 32 [unnamed]
lead invalid inmates to the showers. Brust,
accompanied by roll-call leader Brust and
Jetz [sic] who may have been the work-commitment
leader” (19) made the prisoners take
cold showers and ordered them to “stand
and fall down and stand and fall down” in
the cold water. All the SS present beat
the inmates. Grill is said to have carried
a whip made out of an oxtail or a stick.
Perhaps 25 to 30 inmates died on this occasion.
The corpses were taken to the washrooms
of Blocks 22, 23, and 24, and then in the
evening to the crematorium. Kowalski saw
this happen three times, once in the winter
of 1941 and twice in 1942 (19). Most of
these victims were Polish or Spanish prisoners
(20).
Corpses
from Gusen Taken to Mauthausen
Kowalski also says that
when new transports arrived and the Gusen
crematorium could not handle the corpses,
they were taken to the Mauthausen crematorium
(20). “Our crematory was burning
without interruption day and night. The
rest was taken on a truck in the direction
towards Mauthausen” (79).
Drying Tattoos
on Human Skin
Kowalski also saw Grill
removing human skins with tattoos from
the hospital to dry in the window of Barracks
28, where the medical personnel used to
congregate (21).
Beatings
and Murder
Guards returning or arriving
from the guard house often beat prisoners
with rifle butts or kicked them if they
did not work hard enough at their various
commands, or if they were seen eating bread
or a raw potato (74). Kowalski was twice
beaten by Hartung (81). Kowalski reports
that Willi Jungjohann was a work detail
leader in the upper quarry where mostly
Poles and Russians worked although the
capos were German. Kowalski is not sure
during what time frame Jungjohann held
this job (21). Kowalski’s job was
to transport the stones from the upper
quarries of Kasten Hoffen [sic] and above
that, Ove
rb
rook [sic]. Jung, as Kowalski
calls him, was the leading stone cutter
of the detail. He and the capos often beat
prisoners, sometimes pushing them into
the 20 meter deep hole. After these beatings,
corpses and prisoners with broken arms
and hands were set aside (21) where they
could be watched (35).
Shooting
of American Flyers
In July or August 1944
(23), around
noon
on a sunny, pleasant
day (87) Kowalski saw seven or eight American
planes crash near Gusen and St. Georgen.
The flyers descended with what looked to
Kowalski like “balloons” (22).
Two flyers landed in a field near him and
he saw SS men take one of them into the
Gusen guard house (22). Kowalski saw “Jung” shoot
the flyer two or three times with a rifle.
Although prisoners were ordered into the
tunnels during
the air raid, Kowalski and a few others
stayed outside (23) because the guards
beat prisoners in the tunnels and there
were dead bodies there (86). The tunnel
entrance was only 4-5 meters, and entering
was often chaotic and Jung would beat men
who could not go in quickly enough (23-24).
Kowalski stood on a hill
in Gusen when he saw Jungjohann point his
rifle toward the flyer, heard shots, and
saw the flyer fall (86). Kowalski did not
see the second flyer shot but heard about
it later from the Czechs, Poles and Jehovah
Witnesses who were shot for taking notes
about the incident (87). They
saw the corpse of the flyer as the SS who
caught them outside the tunnel led them
through the guard house. Kowalski and the
other two men received 25 blows for not
going into the tunnel (23).
Murder of Willi
Tuttas
Hartung, as Kowalski recalls,
was a staff Sergeant and detail leader
in the Kasten Hofen [sic] Quarry and detail
leader of the stone masons (28). He once
beat an American prisoner whom he thought
had cut off a bolt in an act of sabotage.
It is not clear what was done with the
man. “The next day they brought him
back to the stone quarry until up to the
toilet” [sic] (29). The man was starved
to death in front of the prisoners over
the course of the next six days (29).
Gassing
of Russian Prisoners-of-War
Kowalski remembers Tandler
was a noncommissioned officer in 1941.
Tandler was in charge of Blocks 13, 14,
15, and 16 where Russian POWs were kept.
Block 16 was used as an invalid block.
These prisoners were not allowed to go
into the main camp. In March or April of
1942, 156 Russian prisoners were gassed
to death under Tandler’s direction
(24). Jetz, Zeidler [sic], Brust, and Slupescky
(in a Tyrolean outfit) were also present
during the gassings, which took place at
approximately
10:00
am
while half the camp was being
de-loused. Camp Commandant Chmielewski
was also there at
11:30
. Guards made sure that
stronger inmates could not escape the gassing
inside the block. In the afternoon, Slupescky
announced the prisoners were dead. The
next day they were taken to the crematorium
on carts (25).
In 1942 and 1943 Tandler
was present as an interpreter when Russian
POWs were hung for trying to escape (25-26).
Another time Tandler gave a Russian POW
25 blows in the middle of
Roll-Call Square
and
then, after Seidler ordered the prisoner
taken to the crematorium, Tandler drowned
him in a barrel of water in Barracks 4,
forcing him to admit he had tried to escape
on the coal car (26, 88).
Kowalski also recalls
up to 650 people being gassed in 1945 (30)
about eight weeks before the end of the
war at around nine pm in Block 31 which
was part of the
dispensary (32). Kowalski observed the
beginning of the gassings from between
Blocks 23 and 24 (32). At that time Kowalski
saw Heisig patrolling the exterior of the
barracks making sure that none of the stronger
prisoners was able to escape (36). Kowalski
was not able to see when the doors and
windows of the barracks were opened in
order to air it out because a “home
guard” was
present all night helping the fire guard
control prisoners and keeping them from
leaving their barracks to do anything but
go to the bathroom (33). During this incident
two Poles were caught by Kirschner trying
to locate the position of the Allied armies
on a map. Kirschner insis
ted
they would be gassed despite
the roll-call leader’s objections
[unnamed] and then forced the men to stand
in front of the guardhouse for a day. Heisig
and Hartung were also guarding them. As
many as 650 invalids were gassed along
with the two young Polish men whom Kowalski
says were perfectly healthy (30). Kowalski
was working on the road to Mauthausen at
the time and Zeigler [sic] yelled at him
for not covering up the bodies with blankets.
Hartung left that afternoon on a truck
carrying the dead bodies in the direction
of Mauthausen. The Gusen crematorium could
not handle all the dead bodies (31).
At the same time as the
gassings, the block eldest and room eldest
of Block 12, of which Hartung was block
leader, also killed people (32). Heisig’s
duties at the camp included deputy block
leader, detail leader in the stone quarry,
and finally a detail leader in the Messerschmidt
factory (33). One afternoon before roll
call in January of 1943 or February 1944
Kowalski saw Heisig, who was deputy detail
leader of about 1500 to 2000 men in the
stone quarry at Gusen (34), order cold
water to be poured on 30-35 “already
weakened” people and then ordered
them loaded onto carts and thrown into
the coal bunker at the guardhouse (33).
These prisoners were still in civilian
clothes, but a section of cloth had been
cut out of the back and thigh and a piece
of striped prisoner-uniform cloth was sewn
in to identify them as inmates (34). Kowalski
explains that Heisig ordered the dousing
to be done in the “ordinary manner” (35),
which is to say that water was poured on
anyone who “had weakened so much
that he would fall to the ground” (35).
Few got up again. Sick or injured people
stayed in one spot where the capos responsible
for them could keep an eye on them. At
roll call, they were taken on carts to
the “stone bunker,” and from
there they were taken in a larger cart
into the camp (35).
Very few survived this
sort of treatment, perhaps one in two hundred. “People
at Gusen who were too weak to work or to
run were brought into a block of invalids
where they later on were gassed or killed
or bathed-to-death” (36).
Living Conditions
Breakfast was coffee.
At mid-day prisoners received one liter
to one and a half liters of soup. In the
evening they were given one-third or one-quarter
loaf of bread. Sometimes they received
a small piece of sausage, a little margarine
or a little piece of cheese. On Saturdays
they were given a bit of jam and a spoonful
of cottage cheese (80).
In 1940-41 prisoners dona
ted
money for the canteen,
for which they signed up during roll call.
In 1943 and 1944 50 to 100 Reichmarks were
taken out of prisoners pay for plates,
spoons and forks. If Kowalski earned 60
RM a month, he was given five coupons.
Kowalski reports that his wage varied from
30, 32, or 40 RM per month, and he was
given 2 or 3 percent of those wages in
coupons. No money could be sent home. He
was occasionally given beets or “three
potatoes” in addition to coupons
(82).
Testimony of Gotthard Krause
Gotthard Krause, a forty-seven year old construction
specialist working for Landrat, Neustadt Huardt was
called as a witness for the defense (225). Before
the war, he was convicted of high treason and served
four years, from 1933 until 1937, in a penitentiary.
After his release, he was taken in 1938 to Buchenwald,
was transferred to Mauthausen in 1940 (226). He
was at Gusen from late 1940 (225) to December 1943
(226) when he was transferred to Auschwitz. In January
1945, as the Russians advanced, he was again evacuated
to Gusen II.
First placed on the “snow detail” at Gusen,
he spent November and December 1940 and January 1941 “taking
care of the transport of snow” (226) until he
was made block clerk of Block 23, the “block
of Spaniards” (227). He later moved to Block
2, where prisoners who had special duties in the camp,
such as canteen duties or clerk duties, lived (231).
In addition to being Block 2’s clerk, he was
assigned to the mailroom. His assignment to the mailroom
was unofficial, however. “The labor-service leader
and the roll-call leader didn’t make any objections
to this work of mine, but the camp commander wasn’t
permitted to know about it because no prisoner was
allowed to work in the mail room” (244). He
remained there until summer 1943 when he went to work
as a specialist on construction detail on sanitary
installations outside the camp, work in which he had
specialized as a civilian (231).
Spaniards
At the time he was clerk of Block 23, he says four
thousand Spaniards arrived in Gusen I and they were “distributed
over some of the blocks” (227). At the time,
he estimates there were perhaps six or seven thousand
prisoners in KZ Gusen I (227).
German Prisoners
in Gusen I 1942
Krause estimates the number of German prisoners in
Gusen in 1942 to be 600 to 800 out of a “total
strength of 9000” (246).
Camp Hierarchy:
Prisoners and SS
As block clerk, he kept up to date lists of prisoners,
their religions, their work details and reported the
causes of deaths as well as passed along slips about
the food. “That means I had to take care of all
clerical work which had to do with these prisoners
in their relations to the camp commander” (227). “If
a prisoner was lost, we filled out two slips which
went to the camp office, and in our personal book which
we kept in the block we entered behind the name, deceased,
then and then” (269). Each prisoner contacted
the block clerk about his rations, work detail, and
need for hospitalization. If there were arguments or
if a prisoner broke the rules or stole bread “we
were a close community” (228) and “there
were slaps handed out” (228). Krause affirms
the defense council’s suggestion that “prisoners
told the block clerks everything that came into their
minds and hearts” (228).
As block clerk, Krause’s duties took him to
the camp clerk’s office three times a day where
he had “exclusive” (228) contact with the
camp clerk and his assistants who were under the supervision
of the roll-call leader (228-229). The Gusen death
register was kept by Camp Clerk Nos. 1 and 2 (275).
Roll-call leaders were responsible
to the first and second camp leaders. Krause
agrees with the defense counsel that, in
relationship to the camp commanders’ daily
contacts, there was similarity between the
roll-call leaders’ duties and the duties
of the adjutant of a regimental colonel.
Similarly, the second camp leaders could
be considered the camp leaders’ adjutants
along with the roll-call leaders, labor-service
leaders and labor-commitment leaders (229).
SS Administration
at KZ Gusen I
Ziereis was Camp Commander (240). Chmielewski
was the Camp Leader until “around the change
of 1941 and 1942” (230) when he was sent to Herzogen-Busch
and replaced by Seidler who remained in command until
Krause “returned in 1945. He was there until
the end” (230). Krause reports that when he returned
in January 1945, Chmielewski was there again “but
not anymore as camp leader” (230). The Second
Camp Leaders were Lowicz and Beck (230). Krause identifies
SS Technical Sergeant Kiedermann, Damaschke [sic],
Kluge, and Brust as the different Roll-call leaders
and tentatively identifies Gross as one as well (229).
SS
Guard Companies
There were four guard companies that were under the
supervision of SS Lieutenant Colonel Obermayer, and
the names of the officers in these guard companies
are Schmutzler, Rismer, Vaessen, and Buler, although
he also says they “changed in between” [object
of preposition unclear] (234). In relation to
furloughs given to guards, Krause is unsure who had
the final decision. It might have been Obermayer or
even Ziereis because he recalls several orders for
furloughs or leaves arrived from Mauthausen (235).
Neither Obermayer or other
guard leaders had much to do with prisoners
in Krause’s memory (234).
“Real
Camp,” “Large
Camp,” Chain of Guards, and Work
Details
Krause defines the “real camp” as the
camp within the electric fence and the wall. He defines
the “large camp” as including the SS barracks
and the workshops. When prisoners were working in the
quarry, a large “guardening detail” [sic]
(236) or chain of guards was required. Thus, during
the day, the SS barracks were surrounded by the chain
of guards, but at night only the protective custody
camp was surrounded by guards (236).
In the morning, prisoners would be on Roll-Call Square
inside the protective custody camp. At the order “Work
details fall out,” (236) the details would form
and the labor service leader would be given a report
of their “numerical strength” (237).
After this, those who worked outside the guard chain
left with a special guard detail (237). Those details
working in the quarry, inside the “large guard
chain” (237) left with only a detail leader and
capo. The large guard chain would have formed “in
front there” (237) and formed a column to march
to their stations either along the “normal street” (237)
through which a path had been made and to the right
of which was a hilly area up which one could see them
climb. After that, “the guard details moved in
every direction, one to the right, one to the left,
one to the back, and so on” sometimes through
the quarry itself. (238). The guard companies alternated
duties daily. One would take out prisoners to be watched
by others stationed along the chain of guards and then
remain on alert (239).
Krause reports that guards had little influence over
prisoners. However, if a work detail “got a bad
reputation through the camp commander and then special
command details were organized with the dog detail,
etc.” (238). This happened frequently and when
it happened there were always a few dead bodies in
the evenings (238).
Schuettauf and
Prisoners
As Krause recalls, the prisoners never had any connection
with the accused Schuettauf (238). Schuettauf had just
one general reputation among the prisoners, that of
General Belly. Krause testifies that Schuettauf
did not have any influence on the work details as far
as the carrying out of the work was concerned (239). He
also goes on to say that he never heard the name Schuettauf
in connection with any incidents of inmates getting
worked to death (238) or in connection with the executions
that took place in Gusen (242).
Krause does recall seeing
Schuettauf within the protective custody
camp in the morning when he would approach
the desk of the labor-service leader to get
instructions for the guard details.
Executions
Krause also recalls seeing Shuettauf within the protective
custody camp when the entire administrative staff was
present for executions. Krause witnessed six or seven
such executions by shooting or hanging. On these occasions
Ziereis would order the execution and the entire camp
would be assembled (240) in the evenings and an announcement
would be made about why the man was to be hanged (241).
In regard to the hangings, these were carried out in
the Roll-Call Place where an arm had been attached
to one of the two electric light poles there. A rope
was thrown over this arm (240). Krause gives
the example of a Russian who had tried to escape. A
table was carried by prisoners, a rope was placed on
the table, and the man had to get on top of it. This
was done in the presence of the entire camp and headquarters
staff (241).
Krause witnessed two shootings and heard a few others.
He states that six SS men carried out the shootings
at Gusen between the two stone blocks, Nos. Six and
Seven before which was a pile of gravel and bricks
which were used to catch the bullets (241). He
believes that it was probably the duty of the command
leader to select the execution detail, and that this
was an assignment of the guard company (242). Krause
explains that the execution was witnessed by “the
company leader, camp leaders and the command, the physician,
and perhaps one or two people from headquarters staff
which were interested in this business” (242).
He recalls that SS Schmitt, Vaessen and Riemer were
present at one time or the other. During the executions
the neighboring barracks were evacuated and prisoners
were not allowed to leave their blocks (242). Prisoners
in the kitchen, the “so-called delousing institute” (243),
and the quarry could still observe the executions and
witnesses would discuss them with other prisoners for
some days (243).
When an execution was going to take place, everyone
in the camp knew about it. Such events were commonly
discussed amongst the prisoners, along with the names
of the SS men who participated, although Krause could
not remember any of them. Krause says that the
possibility to witness these shootings existed, first
by personnel who had stayed behind in the kitchen,
then by those in the delousing institute was quite
close to the execution place. Furthermore, one could
look into the execution place from the stone quarry
Gusen (243).
Wilhelm Grill
and the Mail Room
After getting moved from Block 23, the “Block
of Spaniards,” to Block 2, Krause worked in
the mailroom unofficially, in addition to being the
block clerk. Krause was assigned to the mail
room where he would work under SS Staff Sergeant Wilhelm
Grill (244). Although Krause never became friendly
with Grill (249), he does state that he got closer
with him because of the close working area (244), but
Krause does maintain that Grill was always the SS,
and that he was always the prisoner (249).
Krause testifies that Grill was a member of the headquarters
staff but was not close enough to the Camp Commander
to be considered a member of the inner circle (244). He
says on page 245 that Grill’s only duties involved
the mailroom, but on page 277 he says that when Grill
was “charge of quarters” he was “in
the camp” and that he was “charge of quarters
a few times” between 1941 and 1943.” Outside
of the camp, Grill was working for the National Socialistic
Welfare Organization (245) whose offices were opposite
to the mailroom (278). Grill lived in the SS settlement,
St. Georgen, about six kilometers from the camp (257).
He was married and went home every evening (278).
Along with Krause and Grill in the mail room were
the “so-called censors” (245). These
were usually SS men who, on account of illness or some
physical disability, were unable to go on duty in their
companies. Prisoners were employed there as
censors only when Krause was working: “I was
a German, a Spaniard, Amadea Zinkervrell, a Pole, Marian
Schiffzcyk, then the Pole, Edward Cynajek, then Stanislaw
Nogaj, and then there was an Austrian employed, I don’t
remember his name anymore (245).
Krause recalls that the camp’s postal guidelines
and regulations for Gusen were established by SS Altfuldisch
at Mauthausen (246). The instructions were brought
to the knowledge of the prisoners by being “printed
on each letterhead” (246). Also, block
clerks and other block personnel gave this information
to the new arrivals when they entered the camp (247).
Originally, the letters could be twelve lines long,
the same number as lines on each page (247). But when
the one or two censors (whom Grill assisted when he
had time) had to censor 400 to 500 letters, the workload
and accompanying “technical reasons” (247)
necessitated Grill to order the “so-called
short letter” (247) which Altfuldisch ordered
at Mauthausen as well (251).
Prisoners were allowed to write two letters a month,
and some prisoners tried to give hidden messages in
their letters. These prisoners were punished
directly with five to ten blows with a stick or just
a few slaps to the face (248). If official reports
were made of the violation of the general postal rules,
the individual would receive twenty-five blows or would
have been sent to the punishment company (248).
Krause himself testifies to being punished for handing
out a letter to prisoner Rudi Meixner uncensored, a
letter which Grill had seen already (249). Krause’s
punishment for this was ten blows with a stick. This
violation, in the understanding of the SS, might have
involved the exchange of messages endangering the security
of the camp would normally be punished by a transfer
to a punishment detail after a report to the camp commander.
However, Grill only reported him to Roll-Call Leader
Brust. Grill, Brust and Reitloff decided that Krause
would only receive ten blows with the stick (249) and
that he could stay in the mail room after this event
(250).
When asked how many packages the camp received, he
states “I don’t know the exact number,
but per month there were 1800 to 2000. Months around
Christmas time, of course, we had more” (252).
Usually two SS men, SS Staff Sergeant Grill, or SS
Corporal Reitloff, or SS Iffert and two inmates, handled
the packages as soon as they arrived in camp (252).
When packages arrived, if they were damaged prisoners
entered the item in a special log in the presence of “of
the woman who delivered the mail. The entries had to
be made then because the Postal Office had to make
good for insured packages” (275). Originally,
the censoring was done in a room in the headquarters
building, and then in a special room within the camp
(253).
In 1942, the camp administration ordered that “a
part of the contents of the packages had to be removed
when the packages were censored and these contents
were to be kept separately for special uses” (252).
There was a limit as to quantity allowed per prisoner
of certain items, but Krause says this rule was never
adhered to (253). “The inmate would open the
packages, the SS man checked the content of the package
for forbidden articles, then the part to be removed
was removed, and the other contents of the package
returned to the package, and the package went to the
mail room for distribution” (253) to the inmates
after evening roll call by “either Grill, Reitloff,
or Iffert from the mail room, and from the headquarters
staff, either the camp leader himself, or the roll-call
leader, or some person detailed for this duty” (253).
The items removed were distributed among prisoners
who did not receive any packages or as “a premium
for work” (254)) or for having been “especially
industrious” (254). Krause states that the
distribution of the removed items was done on order
of Security Camp Leader SS Captain Chmielewski. This
was done fairly without respect of the camp hierarchy,
but allows that in some cases certain prisoners might
have taken advantage of their position (253). He then
states that Roll-Call Leader Killerman or Seidler might
order the prominent people in the camp to receive extra
food simply because they were favored, not because
they did heavy labor (254). He himself received items
from packages every evening because, the SS reasoned,
it was better to give him and the other postal workers
items than to have them steal them (278). Krause reports
that it was possible prisoners saw packages of food
being taken to the Jourhaus with mostly cigarettes
and chocolates (274).
Krause recalls that there were cases of inmates believing
Grill had ordered parts of their packages be removed
and either kept, or given to other inmates, but these
persons were then informed of their error (254). Along
with articles getting removed to give to other inmates,
there were some articles that were removed and were
taken to the Jourhaus for the sole use of the SS (255). These
were on some special order that had nothing to with
Grill. These were incidents that just happened
arbitrarily: a Block Leader would just come in and “organize” something
(255). The block leaders had much more freedom of movement
than Grill, who worked in the mail room all day, because
block leaders could come as they pleased. In addition,
block leaders could have punished the prisoners working
in the mailroom if they had complained (272). On page
255, Krause says that Grill never enriched himself
in that manner, but the inmates did complain to him
about the removal of articles from their packages (255).
On page 270, Krause says that he could not say if Grill
did or did not take items for his personal use, but
that if Grill did, it was not when Krause was present
(270).
In Grill’s defense, Krause says that prisoners
seeing packages of the deceased or packages that had
been misaddressed and therefore were undeliverable
carried from the mailroom assumed that these were packages
intended for them (267). Red Cross packages were sent
to the addressee, usually “Red Spaniards” (278).
Prisoner Buyer
Krause relates that he was a “prisoner buyer” when
he was in the mailroom. In explaining how much power
the block leaders had over prisoners, he says, “Another
example of how I worked---for a time I was the camp
buyer. If I had for example bought tobacco for the
inmates and this tobacco wasn’t in my block,
the block leader comes in and takes for himself two
or three or even four packages, I couldn’t say
anything about it though the packages would be missing
because if he didn’t punish me immediately, the
next day he would find fault with me and punish me
for sure. I couldn’t possibly save myself” (272).
Chmielewski and
Night Beatings
There were rumors of Chmielewski going through the
prisoner billets between one and two o’clock
at night. The name Grill was once mentioned in
connection with these rumors. Krause states that
it was possible that Grill might have had night duty
in the Jourhaus, but if so, he would have then had
to report to the mailroom the next morning as usual.
He did not live in the SS barracks but in St. Georgen.
Although he heard once from a block clerk that Grill
had been involved in an episode with Chmielewski when
prisoners’ barracks were entered at night, he
could not remember which block clerk he had heard this
from (257-58).
Bathing-to-Death
According to Krause, the first showers were constructed
after the crematory in 1942. There is some misunderstanding
as Krause seems to be saying at first that there were
two “bath houses” (232), one uncovered “with
only pipes installed, without a roof. The second one
was constructed later on, and came then into a covered
building” (232). Later, he clarifies this by
saying “I am not talking about two adjacent barracks,
but one was made out of the other. The picture is like
that, the first bathroom was used as a foundation for
the second. At first there was nothing but a cold water
shower there, one large basin. Later it was made into
a dressing room, a shower room, and a heating plant.
Thereby being used as a foundation” (267-268).
The water heater, installed in 1942, reduced the number
of people who were murdered in the baths (279).
The open shower existed in 1941 and many prisoners
met there deaths there (268). The bathhouse in 1942
began as a building without walls, then boards were
put around it and still later it was covered (268).
The covered bathhouse was a simple 15 or 16 meter-wide
by 9 meter-long room without any of “the secret
installations that perhaps existed in other camps” (233)
by which he testifies that he meant “gassing
installations” (233). People entered to undress
through a double door and then went through a single
door because “the people were always counted
when they entered a room” (233). Looking in,
one could only see the doors prisoners passed through
in order to undress, not the inner room where they
bathed (233). “Inside the bath house, there was
a sort of basin formed with a depth of about sixty
to eighty centimeters in the shower room. The
drains could not drain the water as fast as the showers
got the water in the room, and if a person fell down
on the drain and stopped the drain, the water would
rise quite high. If the persons were weak, they
simply drowned in the water” (258).
Usually, when inmates in a block heard the orders “Fall
out for bathing” (260), they would strip and
then go to the bathhouse. No one led them to the bathhouse. “The
healthy ones arrived there first, and the sick and
weak ones stumbled behind and they were generally the
ones who remained there.” If the SS personnel
arrived to supervise, the inmates then knew what was
going to happen because usually the inmates took the
baths alone (260). The order to bath happened several
times a week, and the number of “so-called
baths” (261) happened so frequently that he could
not give a number (261).
Krause tells that he learned of such events only hours
afterwards because the inmates had to carry away the
bodies and the block clerks had to go there to make
the identification of the bodies (258). One evening
in 1942 around nine or ten at night, Krause was in
the dispensary and heard “quite a bit of hollering
outside. To my question, what was going on there, I
was told the SS are bathing inmates again” (258).
At that time Krause was not a block clerk, as he was
sick in the dispensary, but he maintains that all of
the block clerks knew about these incidents because
they had to identify and register the bodies that other
inmates had taken from the showers. These incidents
were generally talked about among the inmates (259).
Krause said he could not personally identify any of
the defendants in this trial as having been involved
in bathing-to-death and had never heard any of the
defendants names mentioned in relation to bathing-to-death
(261). Schmitt, Jungblut and Jentsch were mentioned
as having participated, and Krause says he knew personally
that Killerman was involved once (259). Krause also
explains, “Jentsch was one of the persons in
the camp who was a beater and liked to handle his ox
tail whip” (260). He knew Damaschke was present,
being the Roll-Call leader at the time (260).
Gassing of
Russian POWs
Krause heard of gassings
in Gusen but only remembered the time 132
Russians were gassed in Block 16. That night,
Krause’s block was ordered to leave
their clothes behind and go to sleep in another
block (262), and then their block was gassed,
something he recalls happening three times
in all his experience in Gusen I. Later they
heard that a physician had ordered Russian
Block Number 16 to be “deloused” as
well, by which he ironically meant gassed
(262). That night, when he arrived at his
temporary quarters, a “block
in the twenties” (263), he heard that
the Russians in Block 16, who were suffering
from minor ailments, had been told they,
too, would be deloused, but that they were
to stay in place (263-264). “They were
told that that if the gas would cause them
to sneeze they should simply pull their blankets
over their faces and that would stop” (264).
The next morning at roll call 132 of them
were announced to have died in Block 16.
The only name Krause recalls connected to
this was Dr. Kiesuwuetter (264), a Czech
SS man whose last name had been Germanized
who was camp doctor in 1942 (275).
Hartung
Hartung, who lived with Schoenewolf in the SS non-commissioned
officers home outside the camp, worked in the “telephone
central” (265). He was not prohibited from entering
the camp but, as far as Krause recalls, had no reason
to enter it (265).
Jews at
Gusen 1943
Krause testifies that there were Jews in Gusen in
1943 (265).
Americans at
Gusen
Krause does not recall any Americans
at Gusen I (266) and does not recall the name of Willi
Tuttas (274)
Tandler and
the Young Russians
Oscar Tandler was the block leader of the young Russians
in Block 24. Krause recalls that Tandler was often
called the Father of the Russians because “while
he was very strict with the young Russians, he did
try to educate them” (266). He would bring in
the camp band to the block and teach the young Russians
marching songs. Krause says, “It was surprising
for us old persons who were never allowed to sing somewhat
surprising to see these young Russians marching
through the camp singing the German marching song, ‘Erika’” (266).
Krause also reports that Tandler argued with Block
Eldest Ernst Halle over Halle’s failure to properly
carry out his duties and maybe even have reported Halle
at one point (266). He does not recall hearing of an
incident in which young Russians were shot, nor does
he recall hearing an incident in which Hartung was
said to have either beaten or drowned young Russians
(266).
The Russians
According to Krause, the first transport of Russians
arrived in the end of 1941 and were put on stone quarry
detail. Those that survived the stone quarry labor
were later gassed by March or April of 1942. A sign
was even placed on the barracks that read “Prisoners
of War” (270-271). As a block clerk, Krause knew
it was not out of the norm at Gusen to have six, seven,
even ten deaths a night, but in Block 16, where Russians
were held in the winter of 1941 and spring of 1942,
20, 25 or even 30 deaths a day was not unusual (270).
Spotted Fever
The delousings were an attempt to control fleas and
insects in the barracks. Due to these fleas, spotted
fever broke out in the camp in 1941, and Krause was
infected himself in 1942. Altogether, 70 or 80 people
died according to Krause, 8 of them Krause’s
close friends (275). Once the heated water was available,
deaths diminished because prisoners were more likely
to wash. Before, they were “filthy and full of
fleas and lice because nobody wanted to get under that
cold water” (279).
Construction of
Crematory 1942
According to Krause, there was no crematory at Gusen
when he arrived there in 1940. Commander Ziereis
ordered the construction of the crematory at Gusen
(234) in 1942 (232) to burn the corpses of the people
who had died on account of undernourishment because
the crematory at Linz could no longer accommodate them
(234).
Testimony of Anton Ledderstatter
Anton Ledderstatter, a German mason from Munich, was
in Mauthausen and Gusen from August of 1940 until the
liberation (219) because he was a Christian Scientist
although “the Nazi special report says ‘for
offenses against people and state’” (224).
He worked in the administration buildings in St. Georgen
and then in the carpentry shop in Gusen (220).
Various Defendants
Ledderstatter recalls that at time Heisig was deputy
detail leader of his detail [unclear if this is in
St. Georgen or Gusen] (220), he saw him slap a prisoner
and beat another with a stick badly but “he was
not too bad” (221).
Ledderstatter recalls Schuettauf giving orders to
the guards standing in front of the Jourhaus (221)
outside of the camp. “We had a little fun about
him standing there because we knew he had been a parson
at one time” (221). He was known as General Bauch.
Ledderstatter does not recall hearing him give orders
to the guards nor if Schuettauf ever had anything to
do with work details (221).
Ledderstatter once received three pictures in the
mail which was against the rules, but was not punished
by Grill (222).
Ledderstatter recalls that Jungjohann always carried
a stick and personally witnessed him beat prisoners
on several occasions (222)
On 25 July 1944 Ledderstatter saw seven American flyers
shot down during an air raid on the Herman Goering
works [in Linz]. An American major with shrapnel wounds
in his stomach was interrogated by Seidler then taken
not to the SS dispensary but to Dr. Vetter in the prisoner
dispensary who also interrogated him. The American
died several days later (222). He did not hear if any
of the other American flyers were beaten (223).
Ledderstatter reports that he only knew Tandler as “the
Father of the Russians” (223). Of the six defendants,
he says that in comparison with other guards Ledderstatter
thought they were generally tolerable. “It may
be that some of these did somewhere something else
that I or we do not know about but so far as is known
to me, they were tolerable” (223). He declines
to say that Grill was one of the worst and says he
did not know Hartung closely. He does not recall any
of them being nicknamed “the Beast” (223).
Testimony of Heinrich Lutterbach
Heinrich Lutterbach was a 38 year old German national
from Munich. He is not sworn in as a witness but makes
a statement instead (205). A Jehovah’s Witness
(218), Lutterbach was an inmate of Gusen I from October
1941. He first worked in the stone quarry and then
in the camp office (206) as a clerk (211). When he
became ill in January 1942, he was transferred from
the stone quarry office outside the camp to the administrative
offices inside the camp (211).
Block
2 Main Office
The main offices of the Gusen I were in Barracks 2. “A
small part of it was the office and then came the parcel
distribution room and the rest of the barracks was
taken up by living quarters for inmates” (211).
Young
Russians
Lutterbach lived in Blocks 24, 1 and
3 (206). He first lived in Block 3, a stone quarry
block, and then in Block 24 “where only young
Russians lived” (12)
although later Poles and Germans were added, and finally
he lived in Block 1 (12). While the young Russians
were originally spread over other blocks, eventually
they were put in Block 24 where there were some Ukrainians
and Poles, as well, who were put there because of their
youth (212). Their ages ranged from 16-20, 21 or 22
(217). He reports that the Germans in Block 24 who
were put in positions of authority over the other nationalities
did not always treat them well. These Germans were
also favored by the SS like Tandler, who was block
leader, and Heisig (213). He knew Heisig as deputy
block leader of Block 24, Tandler’s Block (208)
and does not recall that he had a bad reputation in
this block (209).
Lutterbach was a room eldest of Block 24 (216) but
says that at Gusen, unlike other camps, the room eldest
worked outside the block. The administration of the
block was all done by the block eldest (217), in the
case of Block 24, by a German a-social named Ernst
Halle (217). Lutterbach also lived with the young Russians,
and testified that he could say nothing against Tandler
for his treatment of the young Russians (206-207) and
that he was called “Father of the Young Russians.” Lutterbach,
a musician, recalls teaching the young Russians songs
which they sang on order of the camp administration
(207). He taught them to sing different songs out of
a song book at intervals over a period of months but
could not remember which songs he taught them (213).
Grill
and the Mail
Lutterbach also recalls that Ziereis “made known” on
Roll-Call Square that inmates were not to get more
than two days of food from their parcels (208).
Lutterbach testifies that most packages came into
the camp unopened and were opened in the camp, but
he does not know if the contents were given to the
SS (214). Although he remembers Grill as an SS Master
Sergeant, he has nothing to say against him (215).
Schuettauf
and the Chain of Guards
He recalls that Schuettauf had the nickname “General
Bauch” (209) and that he was in charge of the
guards. There was an order that all SS but camp administrators,
such as detail leaders and block leaders, were forbidden
from entering the camp. Although these men also did
guard duty at times outside the camp, they were directly
under the “security camp headquarters” (210).
Lutterbach seldom went on outside details himself and
so could not testify as to Schuettauf’s treatment
of prisoners, but said Schuettauf had a bad reputation
in the camp (210). He believed Obermayer was
Schuettauf’s superior over the guards (210-211).
He recalls SS Staff Sergeant Jungjohann as a block
leader but has nothing to say against him. He also
recalls SS Sergeant Hartung as a block leader and later
the head of the camp’s fire brigade but cannot
testify about his treatment of prisoners (216).
Gassings
of Russian Prisoners-of-War
Lutterbach recalls hearing about gassings and beatings
at Gusen I caused by the SS belief that prisoners should
not live if they could not work. He also recalls a
large transport of Russians arrived in the camp in
November or December 1941. They were quarantined for “a
while” (218) and then sent out to work after
which a large number of them died. Tandler, because
he spoke Russian, was block leader of this group. He
recalls hearing that a number of them were concentrated
into a block and gas canisters were thrown in, but
he did not witness this himself (218).
Testimony of Eric Schuettauf
Eric Schuettauf, a 60-year-old technician, native
of Dresden, Germany, finished technical school in Vienna
at 18. He was a non-commissioned officer in the World
War I. Between 1918 and 1933 he worked in steel and
heating plants, before “becoming interested in
the manufacture of chocolate”(287) and after
1920 he worked as a technical leader in one. He states, “The
last 25 years I worked as a technician in a chocolate
factory” (287). He was drafted in 1939 within
24 hours of the start of World War II, despite protests
from the chocolate factory and his own concerns about
his health (287-288). Prior to this, he says he never
took part in any military training but belonged to
a “motor company of the General SS” (288).
At the age of 54, he was sent to a guard company at
the Concentration Camp Flossenbuerg as an SS Tech Sergeant,
where he remained until December 1941 (288-289). He
was promoted to Second Lieutenant in April or May of
1940 when “the Reich’s leader” [sic]
(289) visited Flossenbuerg and promoted him on the
spot without ever having gone to officer’s training
school (289). As a result of his complaints about his
poor health, he says he was transferred to Mauthausen
and then to Gusen I in December 1941 where he stayed
with the exception of June-August 1944 when he was
sent to Vienna (289) on the order of Ziereis (290)
to “install a camp for Afa” (289) at Floridsdorf
(290). There he supervised prisoners transferred from
Schwechat [sic]. He had complained again about his
health was examined for two days and declared unfit
for work, but the diagnoses was ignored and he was
transferred anyway (290).
He was commander of First Guard Company at Gusen I
(290), later named 19th Guard Company (313). In November
of 1943 or January of 1944 he was promoted to First
Lieutenant. He performed the duties of officer of the
day for a week, which included checking SS quarters
and the SS guard details (311).
Duties of
Guard Companies at Gusen I
The four Gusen SS guard companies were under SS Major
Obermeier [sic]or his deputy SS First Lieutenant Mueller.
Mueller was chosen as deputy by Ziereis, who didn’t
like Schuettauf (291). The guard companies rotated
responsibilities thus: One day, guard duty, then supply
the chain of guards, then take charge of “out
details” (291) or prisoner details who worked
outside the chain of guards (291). The fourth day was
for “training, sport” (291).
Prisoners in the quarry details (294) were accompanied
only by their block leaders and capos because these
worked within the chain of guards (295). Detail leaders
and block leaders were subordinate to the commandant
of the protective custody camp (296).
Enlisted men in the guard companies requested furloughs
and leave from guard commanders who then passed the
requests to Obermeier. Ziereis had the final say. They
were signed either by Ziereis or Obermeier. They were
never given to guards for killing prisoners. Guards
were never given rewards for performing their duties
to his knowledge (291).
Every day, the headquarters of the protective custody
camp would request the guard company on duty that day
to furnish details. The company Sergeant would place
the request for an out-detail, for instance, on the
bulletin board to notify the men (292). Schuettauf
says that guards were only instructed about “the
general order and the special order of the camp” (296)
in the guards quarters where a prisoner could only
overhear if he had sneaked in (296). The guards would
assemble in their details in close formation and march
down to the camp and wait a few steps from the entrance.
If Schuettauf was on duty, he would take the “guard
mount” (292) there. The guards would have been
instructed the day before about any special orders
(292). Once the chain of guards was closed, they would
report to Schuettauf through their commissioned and
non-commissioned officers that the last man had taken
his post. Schuettauf would be told as much and then
he in turn would tell the protective custody camp commander
that the guard chain was standing and the guards for
the out details were ready. Then the prisoners would
march out, beginning with the quarry details (294)
accompanied only by their block leaders and capos because
these would work within the chain of guards. Schuettauf
says his duties pertained only to the guards, not to
the prisoner details or their work. He says he never
visited the quarry to observe the prisoners’ work
even out of curiosity. He denies having said that the
prisoners were lazy criminals and says that even if
he had said such a thing, he had no power over the
detail leader, who could simply have told him, That
is known of your business” (295).
At no time did he witness a beating that left 25 men
dead. He instructed his guards never to talk to prisoners
outside the line of duty and to keep a distance of
six meters from prisoners. He sometimes found these
orders were violated and he reprimanded the guards
and brought it to the attention of the company commander.
He had no knowledge of the bunker in the Jourhaus.
Any prisoner taken to the bunker was taken there on
order of the custody camp leader (296).
SS Officers
at KZ Gusen
I
While Schuettauf was commander of First Guard Company,
the three SS officers Jungjohann (308,316), Heisig
(308), and Grill (308) were all members of headquarters
staff and were not a part of his company (316). Jungjohann
had served in the company but was later transferred
to headquarters staff after which time he had nothing
to do with the company (316).
Protective Custody
Camp and Guard Companies
Schuettauf never entered the protective custody camp
(311). He was not allowed under any circumstances
to enter it (312), nor did he have any contact with
what went on inside the camp (313). He was only
permitted to go as far as the gate where he received
his guard slips (311). Guard details and guard posts
had to walk on a path inside the fence outside electrically
charged wire (312). Guards in the chain took their
posts half an hour before prisoners arrived, were relieved
by the second shift of guards only once at noon, and
remained in place until all prisoners were accounted
for during evening roll call (312). Schuettauf claims
that this made contact with prisoners impossible (313).
Even as officer of the day, he only checked the SS
quarters and SS guard details (311). The protective
custody camp had its own officer of the day, who performed
these duties within the camp (312).
The Beatings
and Shooting
Schuettauf acknowledges that he saw beatings, but
never a “brutal beating” (303). He might
have seen Grill, Heisig, and Jungjohann beat prisoners
on one occasion or another, but he cannot swear to
it (303-304). He heard Grill’s name in relation
to an incident in which he once beat a prisoner to
the ground and another in which Grill supposedly threw
prisoners out of their billeting. On page 305, Grill
says that he made an earlier statement (Prosecution
Exhibit P-15) having “a nervous breakdown one
day” (305) after being kept in solitary confinement
and then interrogated, but that he now says that he
never saw this personally. He again retracts these
statements regarding Grill, and Heisig, Jungjohann
on page 308. He says the crowd was too big and
there was too much commotion to recognize who was doing
the beating (308). He denied giving orders to
guards in front of “block house” (309). All
orders were given in SS quarters (309). He never gave
any instructions to the guard details during the day
and never ordered guards to beat or mistreat prisoners
in any way (309). He ordered them to stay away from
the prisoners (310).
He said that guard posts around stone quarries could
not have had time to beat prisoners. They arrived at
their guard posts half hour before work details moved
out of the camp and returned when all prisoners were
accounted for at evening roll call in the protective
custody camp (312). These guard posts were relieved
once at noontime, while prisoners ate lunch, and once
at forenoon (313). When the guards returned,
the head of the detail reported to him (314).
He never received a report of brutality or shooting
from a man in charge of guards (315). All out-details
received their prisoners at the Jourhaus with a receipt
for the number of prisoners (314). Details never
returned with an injured or dead prisoner (314), and
he never received a report of brutality or shooting
from out-details (314). If these incidents occurred,
it would have been reported to him. If shots
were fired at a prisoner trying to escape, it had to
be reported right away (315). Unusual events that affected
work were only required to be reported to him if they
occurred with guards (315).
While at Gusen I, he never saw Kowalski in camp. “His
testimony is hair raising and absolutely impossible” (311).
Prisoners in
Quarry and Chain of Guards
Schuettauf never had contact with
prisoners in the quarries so he did not know about
their working conditions. Generally, he could not see
into the quarries from the areas where his duties took
him. “The main worksite was in Hallam. And one
couldn’t really look into the quarry. One quarry
in Gusen one couldn’t watch from the big semi-circle
in the road. It was covered. And the upper quarry,
one couldn’t see it at all. And in the general
quarry there was a big mix up. There were a lot of
lorries there and a lot of stone cutting mills. One
really couldn’t make out anything there. I could
only see that from quite a distance when I inspected
the guards” (302). He knew little about what
happened inside the camp and only a little about the
out-details because once they left the camp, they were
in charge of the detail leaders (one to every ten prisoners)
and capos (303).
Dead Bodies
Schuettauf never heard of large numbers of deaths
in the camps because he did not have, nor could have,
contact with what was going on in the camp (313). He
could only go to the Jourhaus where the work lists
were given out for the guards. Walking by the camp
inspecting guards, he only saw prisoners loading [sic]
or playing football (302). He only learned about the
ways people were killed at Gusen when he was a prisoner
at Dachau where the only charges made against him after
three line-ups were that he had cursed prisoners, called
them criminals, and prevented them from escaping by
instructing the guards (297). He never saw
bodies lying around the camp (314). He didn’t
know why these people would be dying. Perhaps
it was from undernourishment or sickness (313). He
admits that some new comers and other prisoners looked
undernourished, but others looked very well (313).
Although guards on the chain of guards had to report
to him if a prisoner tried to escape or was harmed,
he never received such a report while he was at Gusen
I (315).
As far as prisoner deaths on out-details, he says
that out-detail guards were given a receipt for the
number of prisoners they took to work and had to return
the same number. In the years he was at Gusen, he never
saw a prisoner returned beaten or dead. The guards
would return the prisoners and say, “Guard Detail
St. Georgen has returned.” If there was an accident
or attempted escape, a report would have to be made
to him, but he never received a report that a prisoner
was shot or killed or harmed (314).
Executions
Schuettauf denied going into camp and carrying out
executions (310). He knew nothing about executions
unless he heard about them later from Riemer or Vaessen
(297). His guard company never furnished men for this
duty. He did hear about two or three executions by
shooting and one hanging and thinks this might have
been in 1943, but he cannot be sure (300). He says
on page 301 that he cannot remember who told him of
such things and says he might have heard about it in
the officers’ club. He did not give the
orders to shoot four or five Russians in June or July
or the orders to execute seven young Poles in 1944. He
was not in Gusen I at that time: he was in Vienna for
a camp installation (310).
Deaths from Bathing and Gassing
Schuettauf knew nothing about bathing-to-death or
gassing (310).
Shooting of American Flyers
The murder of parachuting American flyers was not
reported to Schuettauf. He learned of it on his charge
sheet the next day or in his interrogation in prison
after the war (297). He was in Vienna (316) from June
to August 1944, living at No. 16 Elizabeth Street,
and was registered with the Viennese Police (297). When
he was interrogated about the flyers, he still had
his “Army paybook” [sic] (299) which would
have given the exact dates, but it was taken from him.
He was nevertheless sure he did not leave Vienna before
August 1944 because he received his ration tickets
there for all three months (299). He does recognize
the interrogation sheet he filled out at Dachau on
which he said that he was in Vienna from June to July
30th, 1944, but he notes that he put “approximately” because
he was not sure of the actual dates. The interrogation
is entered as Exhibit 14 and the translation as Exhibit
14A (300). If he had been there, it would have been
reported to him. In fact, he probably would have
seen it because an alarm would have gone off (316). He
says that other prisoners have said that he was present
when enemy planes landed (316).
Mail
SS Colonel Ziereis instructed that prisoners could
only receive as much food as they could eat for one
or two meals from their parcels, and the rest of the
food was to be handed out to prisoners who worked very
hard, had not received a package, or to juveniles (333).
Testimony of Stefan Szmura
A Polish national living in Lipstadt, Stefan Szmura
was a prisoner in Gusen I from January 27, 1941, to
May 4, 1945, where he worked in the Kastenhof and Gusen
quarries (154), as a stone cutter from February 1941
to March 1944 (168), in a camp detail and finally in
the Holzplatz Detail (154).
While working as a stonecutter, Szmura saw the capos
lead the work details to the quarry and saw the detail
leaders take the guards assigned to them (168). The
labor-service officer “wrote the details’ cards,
that is to say how many people were to be on that detail
and who would lead it and the detail leader took that
guard and went out to the detail with it; and those
who took details out for some distance to work had
a guard detail attached to them who read the cards
and I don’t know how many guards he had with
him” (169). From his workplace inside the halls
he could not see if officers actually gave orders,
but he reports that sometimes Himmler or other top
SS visited and then prisoners would be driven to work
even harder (169). In answer to a question from the
defense about whether he ever saw guards in the area
of the stone quarry, Szmura answered, “You
could see them looking uphill on one side of the Kastenhoffen” [sic]
(170).
Szmura could not see what route the guards took to
the quarry in the morning because they were stationed
before he arrived. But the evening was different. “After
the evening roll call, they just went anywhere, wherever
they pleased” (171). When they were relieved
during the day, they would take the most expedient
route, either around the quarry or over the rocks and
through the quarry to pass by the buildings and bread
store (171). On one such occasion, an SS slapped Szmura
for failing to take off his cap (172).
Extermination
and Labor
In the winter, many prisoners lost their lives
in the sleet and snow and were carried back to camp.
It looked like “a review of invalids” (169).
They would sometimes be carried back to camp by other
prisoners, one prisoner taking the legs, and sometimes
taken back on a cart. At roll call, the invalids would
not be able to stand but would be put on the ground
in front of their blocks “...you would see them
lying there, their shirts went up, their bodies would
touch the bare ground and they would be lying there
for an hour or more. There would be ten such invalids
at least ten for every block” (170). In the winter
of 1942 Russian prisoners would carry 50 dead bodies
back to camp on sleds, and Chmielewski would laugh
(170).
Grill
and the Mail
Grill would only allow five lines to be written in
letters containing the words, “I am healthy.
I am well off. I receive packages also money. Regards
to the parents and so on, your son” (155).
Szmura assumes this was Grill’s decision because
he recalls being able to write four pages every other
week in Mauthausen, but says that they were limited
to writing once a month (155, 161). The rules regarding
how many lines one could write were posted in the barracks
by the block clerks who said “it was ordered” (161)
and that the order came “from the orderly room” (161).
Those who attempted to write more had their letters
returned and some were reported, which resulted in
25 lashes across the buttocks (155). Szmura was told
that even the dying in the dispensary had to write
that they were well and had received their packages
(174).
Packages were censored in the SS residential barracks
on the other side of the Jourhaus gate. Szmura was
present on one occasion near Christmas 1942 when Szmura
saw Grill, prisoners, and the kitchen capo in the barracks
surrounded by oranges and food from the packages. Szmura
was ordered to dispose of the waste paper from the
packages (175) Grill also removed cigarettes, baloney
and chocolates from packages (155). Bread and margarine
from the packages were given to work details, but the
more valuable contents were given to capos, the firemen
and the block eldests (156).
The packages were opened in Block 2 inside the protective
custody camp. Prisoners Sunajek, Nogaj, and Krause
worked there. Krause was clerk of Block 2, then Block
3 before working in the post office (161), and he was
also room or block elder in Block 4 (172). Krause also
had an affair with one of the women in the brothel
which cost him his position as clerk (162). “He
organized all sorts of articles from parcels which
came in and carried them to his woman in the brothel” (172).
Although Szmura did not see his package being opened,
he says he knows the contents because his mother had
written to him about them and because he saw Grill “take
away a loaf of bread and part of a bologna” (162).
Szmura was not aware of any rule that prisoners should
only be allowed enough food for two days (162). First
Sergeant Fuessel, Master Sergeant Reichert and Block
Fuehrer Iffert were not involved in censoring the packages,
according to Szmura, but only in distributing them
(162). Fuessel was known for taking little from the
packages (176). Chmielewski and Seidler also distributed
packages. The mail was distributed in the evenings
only (176).
Grill
and Bathing-to-Death
Szmura also testifies that he knew Grill was involved
in bathing invalids to death (156). One Sunday evening
(163) he was in the dispensary in Block 21 and on his
way back to Block 17, which was near the crematorium
(163). As one left the dispensary, there was a gate
between Blocks 27 and 28. Going along the road toward
Roll-Call Square, facing the square, there was a bathroom
to the right and a washroom for either Blocks 21 or
22 on the left (177) There was a pit, perhaps for refuse,
between Blocks 31 and 24 (178). He passed the wash
house and paused for a few minutes (163). Several capos
were outside washing (179) and he looked in before
being beaten with a stick and told to leave (163).
Chmielewski (156) was present wearing a leather coat
and a bent hat with a rim (179). Also present was the “at
that time the roll-call leader, Gross, and then Seidler” (156).
The SS were wearing green coats with darker velvet
collars (179). Also present were the eldest from Block
32, the invalid block (156).
The meter wide double doors to the washroom were fixed
at both sides to the ceiling and the floor with bolts.
On this occasion they were both open (181) Inside the
wash room water was standing to the depth of about
one foot (179), red from the blood of prisoners (180).
He said some of them yelled “Jesus” and “Maria” in
Polish while others yelled out in Spanish. Grill, with
an oxtail whip in hand, would order the prisoners “to
fall down into the water and to get up and then to
fall down” (156). Prisoners who tried to leave
were beaten and forced to stand under “the 1st,
2nd, 3rd and 4th shower heads and nobody
was allowed to stand between the shower heads” (156).
When asked what the cause of death was, Szmura says
that these exhausted men were beaten and forced to
stand in a cold shower in the winter of 1942 (156).
The following day, a Monday, as he was sweeping the
street in front of the crematorium for a plate of food
from the crematorium capo he recognized the corpses
as those from the bathing episode the previous evening
(163). He saw corpses with marks indicating they had
been beaten (156). In addition to recognizing them
the crematorium capo told him they were brought from
the bathhouse (163)
Tandler
and the Young Russians
While working as a stone sculptor, Szmura had occasion
to observe Tandler’s treatment of the young Russians
who worked first in Hall 3 and then Hall 2. One Sunday
afternoon (157) in May or June of 1944 a young Russian
escapee was brought back to camp by Ziereis. (156)
Szmura was lined up outside of Block 3 for the evening
roll call and saw from a distance of perhaps three
or four meters (174) as Tandler, acting as an interpreter,
struck the man on the face and asked him about the
escape. When the young man would not reply, a wooden
horse was brought in and Tandler, Ziereis, and Chmielewski “conducted
the beating” (156) across the man’s bare
buttocks (156). When the man did not respond, Ziereis
took Tandler’s whip and beat the man himself,
then ordered that he be taken to the crematorium and
shot (156) which Tandler and Seidler promptly did (157).
Ziereis then drove out of the camp with his son in
the car. Later Russians who worked in the crematorium
said that the prisoner was in fact shot (157, 164).
Although Szmura did not see how the man died or if
he died, he reports that anyone who attempted to escape
was killed (164).
Hartung
Szmura recalls Hartung as the work leader at Kastenhof
Quarry as well as the leader of the firemen and driver
of a truck within the camp (158).
Engineer
Wolfram and Death of Willie Tuttas
In the winter of either 1943 or 1944 between Hall
1 and the blacksmith’s shop was a machine used
to dig up sand which had a belt three-quarter to one
centimeter thick all around it. One day the Capo Schimmel
(perhaps not his real name 159) and Engineer Wolfram
yelled that a piece had been cut out of this belt (158).
Wolfram told Schimmel that if the perpetrator were
not found he would “take up the whole spare time
from noon and evening and have you exercise” (158).
That afternoon Seidler, Hartung and Schimmel indicated
the culprit was the American prisoner Willi Tuttas
(159), a worker in the stone quarry. Hartung took him
from the quarry (160), or from the “hole” (164)
to “the bunker” where he starved to death
after nine or ten days. The Polish stone cutter Kalemba
told Szmura he had seen the corpse of the American
in the crematorium with marks on his hands indicating
that he had tried to eat his own flesh (160). Szmura
could not say if Hartung had responsibility for the
prisoner once he was in the bunker (164).
SS and
Selections
Although Seidler was responsible for the administration
of the camp, Szmura reports that “every SS man
could kill a man and do whatever he wanted and was
not responsible to Seidler or anybody else. The same
goes for the Germans, the block elders, and the capos.
They killed people and they were not responsible for
it” (165). “It was quite simply the aim
of the SS to kill as many people as possible. The SS
would say either you are in good health and then you
can work, or you are not well, in which case you must
be removed. There were no sick people here” (181). At
every roll call Chmielewski, Roll-Call Leader Brust
or Yentzsch [sic], whom SS prisoners called “invalid
welfare officer” would select prisoners thought
to be too sick to work (183). Szmura recalls one Saturday
afternoon in 1941 when perhaps 2000 or 2500 invalids
were selected “to go special blocks” (182).
Everyone was afraid of being selected, but on this
occasion, even if an inmate looked well he would be
made to run fifty meters back and forth “on the
double” (182) and if he limped he would be selected.
The entire administrative staff was present, including
Grill, and the selection took the entire afternoon. “It
looked like a horse sale, a sale of horses at the fair” (182).
Gaertner and
Executions
Szmura recalls Gaertner, who was on the fire brigade,
sometimes gave him food (165), but also says that he
was always present at “executions, shootings
and the black market” (166). On one occasion
in 1944, as Szmura looked along the street passed Blocks
21 and 22 and past the crematorium, he saw men waiting
between Blocks 17 and 18. Although he could not see
the place where they were shot, he saw Gaertner lead
them to that place one by one and then heard the shots.
Seidler arrived for the execution on a motorcycle (167).
Szmura recalls the hanging of a Russian man who had
tried to escape which he says all prisoners and SS “on
the other side” witnessed (166) [It is not clear,
however, if he is speaking of the “other side” of
the courtroom or of the camp] “More I cannot
say. I was standing in the back” (167)]
Testimony of Antoni Szulc
Antoni Szulc, a Polish 32 year-old treasury official,
lived in Salzburg DP Camp 10 (184). In Gusen I from
June 1, 1940, until May 5, 1945, he worked removing
soil in the quarry, and then as a stone cutter for
four years (184).
Schuettauf
and Chain of Guards
He recalls Schuettauf, called General Bauch or General
Belly by prisoners, in relation to the chain of guards
(184). An SS guard stationed at Lungitz (186) named
Patalas whom he knew before the war in Gaynia [or Goynia
The word is almost unreadable in the copy] told Szulc
that Schuettauf would tell all guards new to Gusen
that all prisoners were criminals and most were under
a death sentence. The prisoners, Schuettauf told the
guards, were extremely dangerous and should have been
shot, but under Hitler’s orders were brought
to Gusen to be worked to death (185-186).
Murder
of American Flyer
One evening around 7 pm in July or August 1944 Szulc
was returning from Lungitz where he worked in the “messerchmitts” [sic]
stores. The car in which he was riding stopped in front
of the Jourhaus and he saw an American pilot with a
bandaged head standing among several SS, including
Schuettauf. Schuettauf beat the pilot and called him
an “American dog” among other things, before
the pilot was taken away out of Szulc’s site.
Later a Polish medical student named Filipiak told
him the pilot was dead (187).
Heisig
and Bathing-to-Death
Szulc recalls seeing Heisig involved in bathing to
death (187).
Jungjohann
and Beatings
He recalls Jungjohann at the stone quarry, always
looking in the window of the hall. Since prisoners
were not supposed to cook potatoes, they kept the door
closed with a hook, but one day Jungjohann knocked
on the door. When Szulc opened the door, Jungjohann
struck him in the face causing him to fall to the ground
and then kicked the stove so the roasting potatoes
would fall out. When a gypsy [sic] by the name of Toni
admitted the potatoes were his, he received a beating
with a spade handle from Jungjohann (188).
Exhibit P-8 and P8-A are admitted, the testimony of
French prisoner Captain Louis Bousell (189)
Exhibit P-9, the interrogation and translation into
English of Polish prisoner Miecyslaw Jaroszewicz (190)
[Here the prosecution explains that they did not seek
to call Jaroszewicz as a witness because the number
of witnesses they could call was limited and they were
not allowed to call corroborating witnesses or witnesses
that might duplicate testimony. They must submit a
list of essential witnesses and are not allowed more.
So the prosecution called those witnesses who could
testify against as many of the accused as possible]
190-191
Exhibit P-10 and P-10A German testimony and English
translation of Heinrich Glowacki (193).
Exhibit P-11 Interrogation of Heinrich Glowacki and
translation (195).
Exhibit P-12 and P-12A Testimony of Ludwig Neumeier,
a German national (197). Later withdrawn (198).
Exhibit P-13 and P-13A, testimony of Dusan Teodoronic
is admitted (199).
Tandler
and Gusen III
Tony Szulc testifies that he first met Tandler in
August 1944 when Tandler was demoted from his position
as detail leader of the young Russians to detail leader
at Lungitz or Gusen III (201). Not all of the 300 Gusen
III inmates worked at the “messerschmitts shop” [sic]
205. There was also a bakery under construction. SS
Sergeant Mak was in charge of Gusen III (205).
In Gusen III Tandler was in charge of the detail which
worked in the Messerscmhitt factory depot in a former
brick factory (204). The demotion was a result of Tandler’s
order to the capos to stop beating the young Russians.
As a result Seidler interrogated and then demoted him
(201) and continued to check up on him at Lungitz.
Tandler was afraid of Seidler as a result and often
asked prisoners to make sure everything was in order
because he expected to be checked frequently. Szulc
gives another example of Tandler’s good character
when, in 1945, it was announced the Poles could leave
Gusen if they would join the German Army. No one from
Tandler’s detail volunteered. When the detail
began receiving half portions of food as a result,
Tandler took Szulc and Paproski, another inmate, to
discuss the matter with the block eldest [number of
block not given], slapped the block eldest for shorting
the detail on food. After this incident, the normal
portion of food was received (202). Szulc testifies
that Tandler’s reputation in Gusen I was generally
good (204, 205).
Szulc also heard of Tandler being called “Grandfather” by
the young Russians (202), although he never witnessed
the treatment of the young Russians directly he does
remember them singing as they left camp (203).
Testimony of Oskar Tandler
Oskar Tandler, a 57 year old weaver (395) was born
in Lodz, Poland. By the time he moved in 1904, at the
age of fourteen, he spoke “perfect Polish” (408).
A Sergeant in the First World War, Tandler was a prisoner
of war from 1916-1918 (395, 408). He tells the court
he was treated “very well” by the Russians
when he was a prisoner of war (429) and learned Russian
at that time (408). After his discharge from service,
he returned to his occupation. In 1920 he published
an invention for his business (395-396).
Tandler joined the NSDAP March 1, 1937. He denies
any involvement in the SA or SS before the war but
explains that because of his knowledge of Polish and
Russian which he revealed in “muster meetings” (396)
before the war started in 1939, he was drafted into
the SS Oranienburg Sachsenhausen, Berlin, July 20,
1940 (396). He remained at Oranienburg for only one
day and was transferred to Mauthausen. He arrived at
Mauthausen on the 22 or 23 of July and remained there
for only eight days. Because of his previous experience,
he received weapons training before being sent to Gusen
I on August 3, 1940 (397). When asked what his rank
was, he stated “At that time it didn’t
matter at all whether one were a non-commissioned officer
or an officer candidate, one had to do duty as a guard” (398)
He was reinstated to the rank of Sergeant on February
12, 1941, and did guard duty in the First Guard Company
outside the camp. For the most part he was used as
a messenger because of his age. Guards were instructed
to keep prisoners from escaping and to not beat prisoners
(398). As long as he was on guard duty, he never
saw a prisoner beaten (399). He was transferred to
the headquarters staff in the beginning or middle of
June 1941 where he reported to Camp Commandant Chmielewski
(399). Tandler received all his orders from Chmielewski
(423). He also was an interpreter for all of Gusen
I (402). In March or April 1942 he became detail leader
in the “industrial yard” (403). Some of
his details included the breeding of angora rabbits,
charge over all construction materials, and charge
over the cabinetmakers’ shop (403). Then in June
or July 1942 he was put in charge of “the Young
Russians” (403). He became a block leader in
July 1942 (416).
Tandler is asked a series of questions about statements
he made in an earlier interrogation:
Asked if he recalled saying in the earlier interrogation
(416) that he was a block leader “from the end
of 1941 until November 1943” (417). Tandler
explained, “That has to be understood in this
way, that one could be used at all times as a block
leader as well as an interpreter or as a detail leader” (418).
In the earlier interrogation, directly after this
answer, Tandler had explained his duties as block leader. “I
had to look after the welfare of the inmates, to see
that there was cleanliness and discipline in the blocks
over which I had charge, that the inmates got their
food distributed in the right manner and that there
was discipline among them” (418). Tandler, during
this trial, says that he had only meant to explain
the general duties of a block leader when he had answered
this earlier question about his own duties as a block
leader (418).
In the earlier interrogation, he had then been asked, “As
block leader, where you in charge of other inmates?” His
answer had been, “Yes, in the block I was in
charge of there were only Russian inmates. They were
under my orders and I had to take care of their food
supply and see that they were clean” (418). Tandler,
in the present trial, says that he does not recall
having made this statement: “Not in this sense” (418).
He was unaware that he was referred to as the “Ukrainian” (429).
Chmielewski
and His Group
SS Captain Chmielewski was in charge of Gusen I until
he (Chmielewski) left sometime in 1942. Tandler got
to know Chmielewski’s group, (399) “the
officers in the immediate vicinity of Chmielewski’s
office” (400), Tech Sergeant Gross, Kluge,
Fassler, Jentzsch, Dameshke, and Brust, the latter “one
of the quietest men I have ever gotten to know as a
role-call leader” (399). Jenstzsch was in the
SS office, the right-hand man of Chmielewski. Gross
and Kluge were labor-commitment leaders. Brust and
Damaschke were roll call-leaders about whom Tandler
says, “I do not include them in the group around
Chmielewski” (399). Chmielewski’s group
consumed large quantities of alcohol which led to violent
behavior. Under the influence they would break everything
in the non-commissioned officer’s club (400).
Chmielewski’s group consisted of only active
SS men (401).
Chmielewski gave Tandler the Detail Well Construction
Weihe [sic] “approximately from the beginning
to the middle of November 1941” (401) which he
completed either at the beginning or the middle of
1941 (402).
Duties
of Interpreter
After the Detail Well Construction ended Chmielewski
made Tandler the interpreter of Polish and Russian
for all of Gusen I (402). Tandler had to interpret
for the Political Department in inheritance cases,
criminal investigations, and divorce cases. His main
interpretation work was for work details. He had to
tell inmates how to use their tools and tell them what
work had to be done [presumably in Polish](402) until
the Russians arrived, and then he was translator for
the Russian block and for the work details (403).
Wilhelm Grill
Tandler told the court that he never saw Grill with
Chmielewski’s group. He testifies that the only
time he saw Grill was when he went to the post office.
Grill went home after work. Tandler also testifies
that he rarely saw Grill at the non-commissioned officers
club and does not remember with whom Grill associated.
If he was in the non-commissioned officer’s club,
it was only to drink a beer and then “disappear
again” (401). On cross-examination, Tandler tells
the court he only heard about Grill (425). He testifies
that he heard prisoners cursing about the censoring
of the mail, and he relates a time he saw a Pole reading
his mail that had been censored (425). In his interrogation,
he admits to hearing prisoners cursing Grill about
the way he beat them, but in cross-examination he denies
it (426).
Young Russians
In June or July of 1942, approximately 300-400 young
Russians came from Mauthausen and were put in Block
24. SS Technical Sergeant Kluge was in charge of the
block for three or four weeks until he was given the
job of labor commitment leader (404). Initially just
the interpreter for the young Russians, Tandler took
charge of the young Russian block from “the end
of June, the beginning of July 1942, until May, 1944
with the exception of the time from November, 1943
until March, 1944, during which time I was sick” (404)
(416). He characterized his relationship with the young
Russians as “a father to his family.” This
characterization was given to him not by the Russians
but by his “SS buddies” (404). He told
the court that when the young Russians marched to work,
they sang. At first they sang German and Russian songs,
but SS Captain Chmielewski forbade them to sing any
Russian songs (405).
According to Tandler the young Russians’ average
day went thus: A half hour after roll call they were
marched, singing, to their place of work where Tandler
handed them over to an SS man, a skilled worker, under
whose tutelage they worked as apprentices to become
stone cutters (405). The Young Russians worked shorter
days than the older inmates. They worked a half
an hour after roll call and they returned a half an
hour earlier (405). Tandler gives the court a description
of a Wednesday afternoon: “On Wednesday afternoon
I drilled them in marching while they were singing
or did athletics, and on Wednesday afternoon at 2 o’clock
I went with them to a movie” (405). Saturday
afternoon they were “altogether free” (405). Tandler
tells the court that he enjoyed marching with “the
boys” (405) and that they enjoyed it as well
(405). He denies that, as Pedro Gomez testified, he
used singing and marching as a form of punishment which
killed many (431). He tells the court that he knows
they enjoyed it because after he had received the orders
from Chmielewski that the Russians had to sing (405),
several inmates who spoke German (ten to twenty) offered
to write the German words in Russian so that others
would be able to sing (406).
No relationships were built between young Russians
and the older Russians because they were prohibited
from going into the prisoner-of-war blocks. The young
Russians did not wear striped uniforms. “They
were clothed in captured Belgium uniforms, trousers,
jackets, overcoats, and caps” (406).
He told the court that none of the young Russians
from Block 24 were ever executed (404). As to the charge
that one Sunday afternoon in summer 1944 (414) he,
Seidler, and Ziereis beat a young Russian prisoner
who had tried to escape, then kicked him and drowned
him three times in a barrel (413) before taking him
to the crematorium to be shot, Tandler says this never
happened, and that if it had happened during roll call,
as reported, the whole camp would have witnessed it.
He says that in the summer of 1944 he worked as detail
leader in Lungitz at the airplane manufacturing detail,
but also says that on a Sunday afternoon, all prisoners
would say “during noon roll call on Sunday all
prisoners are in camp” (414).
He also denies Pedro Gomez’ testimony that prisoners
contracted tuberculosis as a result of hard labor.
Tandler states that the young Russians would receive
an extra meal because of their hard work as they were
supposed to, contradicting Gomez’ testimony.
He also contradicts Gomez’ testimony that the
block leader would steal the young Russians “regular
meal” (431).
Russian Prisoners-of
War (POW)
Tandler says he never beat a Russian POW (415).
The Russian POWs arrived at Gusen I at the end of
September or beginning of October 1941 (416). For the
first four to six weeks, they were put into “quarantine” (419)
and then sent out into work details at the beginning
of December, mostly to the stone quarries to be used
as stone cutters (419). They were in Blocks 13, 14,
15 and 16, which became known as the “Russian
Camp” (406). Tech Sergeant Knockl was in charge
of the Russian Blocks. “Block leader and detail
leader in the stone quarry were SS Staff Sergeant Becker
and SS Kuehtreier” (408). Later,
Smernov, a Russian and former captain of the Cossacks
was added as a block leader and also served as interpreter
in the camp when Tandler was with outside details (408). The
Russian blocks were fenced off from the rest of the
camp and there was wire going around the fence. There
was a guard posted and no one was allowed to enter.
The only persons allowed to enter the blocks were Russian
block leaders and Tandler, but only in his function
as interpreter (406). Tandler tells the court that
he had no administrative position or authority within
the Russian camp (406). Other than for interpretation,
the only time Tandler came to the camp was when one
of the block leaders wasn’t present or to supervise
food distribution (407). He denies ever being block
leader in the Russian camp even after a witness of
his, Lutterbach, told the court he was (422). He tells
the court that it was understandable for the prisoners
to think he was a block leader, as anyone on duty may
have seemed like a block leader to them. He relates
that even some SS officers thought he was a block leader,
but he insists that he was never block leader in the
true sense of its meaning (423).
Tandler says that he never heard anything about the
gassing of Russians in Block 16 or other crimes while
in the camp, although “Lately I have heard a
lot of stories about it” (408). He denies ever
having heard, as Kowalski testified, of the gassing
of 156 Russians or ever having stood near Jentzsch
in the camp, or with Jentzsch, Seidler, Brust or Slupinski
while Slupinski wore a Tyrolean outfit. He does remember
one evening when Block Leader Knockl told the block
eldests that prisoners had to clear the barracks the
next morning because their barracks had to be disinfected
and that gas would be used (409). When gas was
used for “disinfection,” he says that the
windows and doors of Blocks 13, 14, 15, and 16 were
sealed with paper strips. He didn’t see this
done, but he saw the paper strips later (410).
According to Tandler the Russians were infested with
vermin when they arrived (410). Daily checks
were made to see if they were infested. If the infestations
were not too bad their clothes were taken to a disinfection
installation “solely for the delousing and disinfection
of clothes” (411). He says that the first
time he recalls a gassing for the purposes of getting
rid of vermin was 1941 (411) in the summer (412) when
the fleas were so bad “not only the inmates’ camp
but also the SS barracks and the industrial yards were
infected. The whole camp was done over because the
plague was so bad one only had to walk on the street
and be beset with fleas” (411-412). Individual
barracks were gassed again in 1942 and 1943 but not
the entire camp (412).
Tandler again stated he has no recollection of the
gassing of Russian POWs in Barracks 16 and says that
he did not observe, on being asked, if those administering
the disinfection of barracks wore gas masks (412).
He tells the court that when the Russian prisoners
arrived “from a front collection camp” (410),
they were badly undernourished (410, 429). They used
to pick up garbage, such as old potato peels and carrots
(419), and put them in their pockets for later consumption
(411, 419). Tandler’s “attention had been
called” (411) to this, and he himself saw how
they filled their pockets with garbage to bring back
into the camp and that they ate “this garbage
without cleaning it first and that they ate quite a
quantity of it while outside the camp and ate quite
some quantity of it while inside the camp, that their
pockets were literally filled with this garbage. I
made them empty their pockets and told them that they
not only made themselves sick by eating this stuff
but also endangered the health of the entire camp” (411).
Tandler says the Russians’ eating of garbage
was the cause of the typhoid epidemic in January 1942
(419).
Kamienski had testified that while the Russians were
in quarantine they were only given half a ration and
that is why they would eat garbage (432-433). Tandler
denies Kamienski’s testimony that some of them
ate manure (433).
“Freezing” of
the Russians
The worst deaths came in January 1942. Tandler tells
the court that no one gave consideration to the fact
that the prisoners were weak and undernourished. Everyone
had to work whether they were able to or not. Tandler
describes January 1942 as being a “hard winter” (419).
He goes on to testify “during the month of January
a few hundred of them were brought back from the stone
quarry frozen to death or nearly frozen to death. For
this reason out of my own initiative several times
I went to the camp commander Chmielewski. He told me: ‘That
is none of your business. Take care of your own affairs”’ (419).
Work was stopped at the end of January when the number
of deaths increased (420).
Tandler states that he was never a detail leader in
the work details of Gusen I and so had nothing to do
with the prisoners being taken to work or the manner
in which they were loaded onto cars (420). Staff Sergeant
Becker and Kuehtreier were the detail leaders and block
leaders in the stone quarry (408).
Tandler denies Krause’s testimony in which he
(Krause) states that those Russians who survived the
winter were gassed in the spring (421). Tandler also
denies defense witness Lutterbach’s testimony
that Tandler was a block leader in the Russian camp
when many Russian’s died (422). Tandler explains
that he was an interpreter for the Russian block, that
he got his orders directly from Chmielewski, and so
both SS and prisoners mistakenly thought he was a block
leader because he was one of the few allowed in the
POW camp. “Neither SS nor prisoner if they had
no assignment were allowed inside the camp. No, for
this reason they were unable to know and to find out
what I was doing in this camp” (432).
Tandler also denies (433) Kamienski’s testimony
that Tandler beat the Russian POWs and kicked them
with his feet when they did not understand his poorly
translated orders on their first day of work in January
1942, and that by March 1942 almost all of them had
died (432).
Deaths at
Gusen
During the middle of December 1942 a large number
of inmates died (419). The most deaths at Gusen occurred
during the fall of 1941 and winter and spring of 1942
(433).
Bathing-to-Death
Tandler does recall hearing about bathings-to-death
while at Gusen. He did not witness these incidents
and cannot estimate how many died, but he did hear
about it often (433).
Tandler states, “Invalids were given baths and
many of them died on account of it” (433). According
to Tandler Chmielewski and his group were responsible
for administering these baths at night after consuming
large quantities of alcohol, and that they were known
for doing other things [unspecified] as well (434).
He goes on to say, “I never saw anything like
that, and I wouldn’t have let them do it if I
had seen them” (434).
Executions
Tandler recalls that a Russian was brought down from
Mauthausen in either 1941 or 1942, but says that he
witnessed this Russian’s execution as a spectator
(424). In an earlier interrogation, he had said he
never saw an execution but only heard about them (425).
Tattoos and
Soap
Tandler says that he never saw any tattooed skin being
dried or heard about soap being made from human beings.
He calls these stories “fairy tales” (432).
Sources: Jan-Ruth Mills, Pima Community College, Tucson, Arizona KZ Gusen Memorial Committee Digital Archive Project |